lol. Who are you. Best, Kyle.
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020, 19:45 Calvin Judy - calvin at swiftnode.net (via csgo_servers list), <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> wrote: > So your argument is because there are reflection attacks with higher > amplification, Valve should, do nothing? > > I don't think anyone is worried about carriers or datacenters going down > over source engine reflection attacks, and I made no comment that would > imply that. > > My goal is to keep customer's services online throughout the attacks, > regardless of method or size. DNS/NTP/SNMP reflections are far less > resource intensive to mitigate compared to attacks that require hashlimits > or DPI, even if they are magnitudes larger on average. > > I'm not sure why anyone would condemn Valve for patching a well known > reflection vector. > > > What are you talking about 😂 > There's millions of other boxes. The genesis for all of this was SNMP > +- NTP, which came after and was 50x worse per academia. NTP, SNMP, > and CoD were the basic reflection staples of 2010. > > There's MTU hacks that break other queries which further destroy the > ecosystem regarding statistics. Breaking outside of the hacked STB > ecosystem (and oh my lord is there a lot) this is not really a hot > market anymore. There's boxes that can actually saturate the entire > link now that don't have to spoof. My single port server receiving on > 27015 killing an entire datacentre (which hit many other folks - to > the point of pings on IRC) from getting a simple reflection attack is > long gone. > > Basically, it's great that you've found the entire Valve + self-hosted > ecosystem at its peak. But this is a decade old issue that no longer > impacts real carriers, > Kyle. > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:43 PM Calvin Judy - calvin at swiftnode.net > (via csgo_servers list) <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> > <csgo_servers@list.valvesoftware.com> wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/ > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/
