Ah, doh! That is right, needed position:relative
Added that and it worked: http://www.washsq.com/beta/ (the green bg is just there to make sure it is right) Image doesn't disappear either on FF or IE6. And I added a margin for the text to get it to wrap closer to the cables even though it is ON TOP of the cable image (under the part of the image where it fades). Thanks again, looks like I should be able to get the rest of the site finished with easy now! Whew thank goodness it's a 3day weekend too! ted ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/