Mike, it was a combination of your first suggestion and modifications suggested by Gunlaug that has worked in the end - as you can see from http://www.biotext.com.au/test0205/testpage.html By starting the border exactly where I want it on the right, and using the white div to shift the left side of the div back to the edge of the page and another one to move the 'buttons' over to where they should be, I avoid the problems of overlapping and transparency and everything else that was making it hard to fix on the right. It's amazing how a tiny thing like that border can eat up the hours! Thanks, Maren
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