WinXP Pro SP1, AMD 2400+, 1gb ram.  I can check tomorrow as well on my
laptop, WinXP Home SP2, AMD sempron 2800+, 512mb ram, IE 6 whatever and FF1
0.4 (*sigh* guess I better upgrade it).  I don't get any errors in IE at all
 just that hesitation.  I'll post back tomorrow, late afternoon (MDT, USA) -
have to go to town tomorrow (140 mile round trip, takes most of the early
part of the day....)

V
 
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From: James A.
Date: 08/09/05 21:15:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [css-d] A New Drop-down Menus Example
 
Vicki,
 
Thanks for the tests!
 
But, I am unsure how to generate the same errors myself inasmuch as I have
IE6.0.2 and Op8.02 and both run the DDmenu page smoothly with no errors.  I
am using WindowsXP Home on a laptop.  How is it that these problems occur on
your end?  Different OS maybe?  Let me know...
 
Thanks,
 
-- James
 
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Vicki Frei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [css-d] A New Drop-down Menus Example
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:52:34 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time)
 
For your ddmenu1:
 
In IE6, there's that little "pause" when one thinks it's going to bork and
die.... but then it does work, and works quite well comparatively (and
considering which browser is under discussion *sigh*).  Only other caveat:
you have to actually hover!pause over the menu item in order to "force" the
onhover change of color/graphic.  But that's IE for you, and that's to my
mind at least, fully acceptable.
 
In Op 7:  js error as follows -
 
Event thread: onmouseout
Error:
name: TypeError
message: Statement on line 9: Expression evaluated to null or undefined and
is not convertible to Object: this.lastChild.style
Backtrace:
   Line 9 of linked script http://www.ximbalo.com/test/ddmenu.js
     this.lastChild.style.visibility = "hidden";
   At unknown location
     {event handler trampoline}
 
[[this appears once for each instance of the js it would seem]] and then the
mouseovers stop in midstream so the sub-levels never drop down except on the
first section ("Cross"), and then only when one has almost moved the mouse
OFF that main selection.
 
Op 8:  js error as follows:
 
..: Minimalist Drop-Down Menus :.
http://www.ximbalo.com/test/ddmenu1.htm
Event thread: mouseover
Error:
name: TypeError
message: Statement on line 8: Could not convert undefined or null to object
Backtrace:
   Line 8 of linked script http://www.ximbalo.com/test/ddmenu.js
     this.lastChild.style.visibility = "visible";
   At unknown location
     [statement source code not available]
 
[[similar to error in Op 7, rephrased for the newer version one assumes]]
Any attempt to mouseover the menu main items results in the js error box
popping up.  One sees the menu dropdown behind the error box, however.
 
I will check with Konqueror tomorrow....
 
V
 
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From: James A.
Date: 08/09/05 20:25:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [css-d] A New Drop-down Menus Example
 
Cool!  Thanks...
 
Yes that is why I did it... I wanted a more coherent, easy to read and share
source.
Will be here ready to improve upon, fix, or further perfect this tireless
effort.
 
Regards,
 
-- James
 
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Vicki Frei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [css-d] A New Drop-down Menus Example
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 20:23:15 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time)
 
Well, I'd like to see (in your test cases) some 3rd level menu expansions.
But so far (limited quick look-see in the middle of other stuff....) it
seems far more "coherent" than the suckerfish examples.  I have looked at
this point only in FF1.0.6; I will certainly test further in the following:
IE 6, Op 7.23, 8.02, Konqueror linux (assuming I can get either Kanotix to
utilize my serial hardware modem, or get SUSE installed shortly....) and
report back.
 
It looks really good so far.  I'm hoping - REALLY crossing all body-parts
hoping! - that this is a real breakthrough, since I have SO MANY place where
this would be perfect, which suckerfish has not been....
 
Vkaryl aka V
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: James A.
Date: 08/09/05 20:05:05
To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
Subject: [css-d] A New Drop-down Menus Example
 
DROP-DOWN MENUS:  a good new example?
 
I have been working for a couple months on a website where the customer
wants a drop-down menu.  After studying the typical examples out there...
Suckerfish, etc... I thought I finally had a good working model.  But alas,
when I finally had an opportunity to check it out on Macs... bad news.
 
So... I began to study more examples, and work at it and work at it,
until... finally I think I may have brought together the best of all the
examples out there, while also *distilling* the code down to a bare, clean
minimum and ALSO removing all hacks, browser fixes, and inflexible font and
sizing issues.
 
I hope that everyone here will please glance at it, test it on their various
browser versions that I may not have access to, and provide me with
feedback.
 
If in the end, I can arrive at a DDMenu "template" that works on all
browsers, without lots of hacks and fixes, and is easy to reuse... then I am
going to begin building my own (public) library of reusable CSS code
starting with this DDMenu.
 
SO... Feedback is most welcome... thank you.
 
 
Minimal example 1:  http://www.ximbalo.com/test/ddmenu1.htm
Slightly more robust:  http://www.ximbalo.com/test/ddmenu2.htm
 
 
Regards,
 
James A. -- Ximbalo Design
 
 
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