Mark Mckee wrote:
I have to say I support:-

*firefox windows and linux
*mozilla windows and linux
*opera windows and linux
*Safari
*Netscape if possible

I definately no longer support:-

*IE in all its forms --- i am sick and tired of having to change my designs to suit IE, tired of having to hack my code so it displays correctly. lets hope IE7 works or that will be crossed off my list.

mark....

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I recognize the frustration with IE. Who here hasn't finished a beautiful layout in __________ (fill in the blank), and then screamed obscenities and frightened coworkers and family when you saw how IE mangled your beautiful and validated work? I know I have!

I really do hesitate to reply, because this issue has been flogged to death (and then some!) on every list I have ever been on, but since CSS-D is supposed to be about the practical rather than just theory, here's a fact I would like to ignore but haven't been able to:

"On average, 95%+ (that's not a typo) of of my small business customers and their site visitors use MS-IE versions 5.x through 6.x, according to the browser stats I collect."

I truly am open to suggestions on how to overcome this fact and ignore the IE platform altogether, of course while continuing to earn an income....

I can make a good economic case for using CSS that makes sense to small business customers. And, while I don't have a good economic justification for accessibility, as the price of compliance continues to fall I am able to include it or some portion of it without much grumbling. However, I have no idea how to tell my customers that we are going to ignore up to 95% of their user base because I don't like the way those users have chosen to access content and because it makes my job more complicated. I suppose you could upcharge clients for MS-IE compliance, but if you do please forward me a list of your prospects so I can bid against you :). All kidding aside, I don't have a clue how to tell clients they won't get a site that renders in IE and still continue to run a business.

The user chose MS-IE. We might not like it, or we might think they made an uninformed choice (I use FF and Thunderbird when using a Windoze platform, so it's my belief as well), but that was their choice. In theory I think I should respect that choice, and in practice the fact that 19 out of 20 of my client's end users have chosen it means I don't have much say in the matter for the foreseeable future. I don't see how telling them you can't use MS-IE is any different then putting an animated rainbow banner on the front that says "This site is designed for Netscape 2.0 at 800x600."

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