Susan,

Normally removing the DOCTYPE declaration puts the browser into 
quirks mode. This may seem to "fix" your problem, but you'll probably 
just run into other layout problems later and since quirks mode 
varies from browser to browser it'll be frustrating.

You just need to zero the margin on your body to get rid of that spacing:

body{ margin:0px;}

Hope this helps,

Chris Perkins
Media Lab, Inc.
http://www.medialab.com/sitegrinder  Photoshop designs to web 
sites:  XHTML 1.1 and CSS


At 06:00 PM 11/30/2005, Susan Tilley wrote:
>http://roguerivercc.org/test.html
>
>In FF the test page above shows a mysterious gap after the header graphic -
>it is the horiz space between the bottom of the blue title graphic and the
>red line which is the border-bottom of the header div.
>
>Oddly, when I removed the DOCtype 4.01 strict tag. the gap goes away and it
>displays as I want it. If I change DOCtype to transitional, it also goes
>away.
>
>IE 5, it displays as I want.
>
>Does anyone have an idea of why this is happening and how I can make it
>stop?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Susan
>A Street Web Design
>http://astreetweb.com
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