Good thinking...I did create a create a class just for that. <div id="menuborder"></div>
#menuborder { position: absolute; top: 35px; left: 0; z-index: -10; width: 100%; height: 20px; border-bottom: solid 1px #4C7F80; background: #fff; display: none; } Obviously, not the ideal solution. I think I may experiment with nesting an unordered list in a definition list next. Another question: What's a good source to read about inheritance, how to override it and browser quirks? Also is "padding: 0 0 0 9px;" ever treated differently than "padding-top: 0; padding-right: 0; padding-bottom: 0; padding-left: 9px;" ? Thanks, ~PJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "{tonyFelice}" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'{tonyFelice}'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Paul Walker'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <css-d@lists.css-discuss.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] width: 100%, < 100% in IE > Ok, that was close. > > #menu ul { > list-style-type: none; > float: none; display: none; > margin: 0; padding: 5px 92px 5px 10px; > background-image: none; > background-color: #fff; > border: none; border-bottom: solid 1px #000; > } > Fixes the provided example perfectly. > > But, although the right padding was 92px and could be affected by modifying > the inherited padding, that wasn't the real source. Anybody want to season > a guess as to what else in this page is 92px? The left of the active tab. > > So, because these are nested the way they are, applying the 'selected' class > to any of the subsequent subnavs, as would be the case in production, the > amount of right padding on the subnav is equal to the left of the active > tab. > > I can tell that some brain-bending went into this layout, so maybe an > appropriate IE fix would be to handle the subnav background and lower border > in a completely separate block, impervious to these idiosyncracies. > > Hth > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of {tonyFelice} > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 2:31 PM > To: 'Paul Walker' > Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: Re: [css-d] width: 100%, < 100% in IE > > All the padding left and right is inherited down, for a combined total of > 92px at any width. > > This creates a fix, but moves the subnav over 92: > #menu ul { > list-style-type: none; > float: none; display: none; > margin: 0; padding: 5px 0 5px 102px; > /*added 92 to the previous 10*/ > background-image: none; > background-color: #fff; > border: none; border-bottom: solid 1px #000; > } > > Hth > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Walker > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:41 PM > To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: Re: [css-d] width: 100%, < 100% in IE > > The problem with your proposed solution is that 1) it creates a horizontal > scroll bar in the browser and 2) if the window is resized small enough, the > original problem resurfaces. > > Perhaps someone has a better method of accomplishing the same look w/ > different (but symantically correct) markup and css? > > Thanks, > ~PJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "{tonyFelice}" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Paul Walker'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:25 PM > Subject: RE: [css-d] width: 100%, < 100% in IE > > > > Paul, > > > > I don't know that I could tell you *why* but I can tell you the > width:150%; > > seems to fix it. > > > > Hth. > > Tony > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Walker > > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:07 PM > > To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > > Subject: [css-d] width: 100%, < 100% in IE > > > > The nested unordered list is absolutely positioned and set with a width of > > 100%, but does not take up the width of the browser window in IE6. I > would > > greatly appreciate it if someone could explain to me why. > > > > The markup and css are here: > > http://www.paulwalker.tv/tabs.htm > > > > Thank you, > > ~PJ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ > > Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ > Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ > Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ > css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ > Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/