Hi all, Allison wrote (28-12-05 19:48), resumé: 1> ... Paul's code + Tony's fix breaks FF: horizontal scrollbar to much & top <div> to short. and before (28-12-05 18:07): 2> ... [berkeley-site:] I got everything working in FF & Opera without having to change the nesting of the lists (thus, keeping it more accessible).
@1: When Tony's code is placed in a IE * html-hack, FF will react as before, I think. But for me *the major problems stay*: - Paul's model doesn't work in Opera! See screenshot 1 <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/paulwalker-sshot-Opera.png>. - When a visitor likes or needs to enlarge the font in his/her browser, the layout is not resistant. See screenshot 2 <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/paulwalker-sshot-FF800x600-2fontsizesSmaller.png> and screenshot 3 <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/paulwalker-sshot-FF1280x1024-2fontsizesBigger.png>. @2: It happened that the html-validator showed some errors in placing the <ul>'s of the submenu's within the <li>'s of the menu... I corrected this in a berkely-testpage <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/berkeley-francky.htm>, in order to see if I could manage to get Tony's fix to it (and to steal the code in order to get Paul's model working in Opera). But ... only with corrected html, nothing changed: if the <ul>'s and <li>'s are in the correct w3c-way, now Opera goes vertical in the Berkely-model (just as in Paul's case)... screenshot 4 <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/berkely-valid-in-Opera.png>. My conclusion: it is extremely hard (if not impossible) to satisfy IE, FF and Opera together in a liquid horizontal nested menu-structure. And the next step: what about other browsers? - I agree with Allison: a working model stays welcome! As a work-around I fall back to my suggestion to split up the menu in equally ranked <ul>'s for the (sub)submenus, which have visually the same layout and functionality. In order to get it as accessible as possible, I think that can be realised without to much trouble: by making a second navigation/menu-structure. I hope I can concretisize this in a testpage, over a few days. So long! francky ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/