Hi all,

Allison wrote (28-12-05 19:48), resumé:
1> ... Paul's code + Tony's fix breaks FF: horizontal scrollbar to much 
& top <div> to short.
and before (28-12-05 18:07):
2> ... [berkeley-site:] I got everything working in FF & Opera without 
having to change the nesting of the lists (thus, keeping it more 
accessible).

@1:
When Tony's code is placed in a IE * html-hack, FF will react as before, 
I think.

But for me *the major problems stay*:
- Paul's model doesn't work in Opera! See screenshot 1 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/paulwalker-sshot-Opera.png>.
- When a visitor likes or needs to enlarge the font in his/her browser, 
the layout is not resistant. See screenshot 2 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/paulwalker-sshot-FF800x600-2fontsizesSmaller.png>
 
and screenshot 3 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/paulwalker-sshot-FF1280x1024-2fontsizesBigger.png>.

@2:
It happened that the html-validator showed some errors in placing the 
<ul>'s of the submenu's within the <li>'s of the menu...
I corrected this in a berkely-testpage 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/berkeley-francky.htm>, 
in order to see if I could manage to get Tony's fix to it (and to steal 
the code in order to get Paul's model working in Opera).

But ... only with corrected html, nothing changed: if the <ul>'s and 
<li>'s are in the correct w3c-way, now Opera goes vertical in the 
Berkely-model (just as in Paul's case)... screenshot 4 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/images/berkely-valid-in-Opera.png>.
 


My conclusion: it is extremely hard (if not impossible) to satisfy IE, 
FF and Opera together in a liquid horizontal nested menu-structure. And 
the next step: what about other browsers?
- I agree with Allison: a working model stays welcome!

As a work-around I fall back to my suggestion to split up the menu in 
equally ranked <ul>'s for the (sub)submenus, which have visually the 
same layout and functionality.
In order to get it as accessible as possible, I think that can be 
realised without to much trouble: by making a second 
navigation/menu-structure.
I hope I can concretisize this in a testpage, over a few days.

So long!
francky



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