Thank you for your input, I didn't realize you couldn't have defined 
borders on the same div that's 100%. So maybe a wrapper at 100% 
containing my footer would work? Another for the tool belt;-) On the 
other hand I didn't have the scroll bar till I added the footer, and 
when I take it out completely, wala, it's gone.

Now I guess I go back when I get back to it next tues. to fix it 
hopefully, armed with this new info. Thanks again! I do have
a problem with the header on NS, Safari, and NS XP in that the 
span.class right has got the text laying on the line. Looks fine in 
Opera, NS, and IE Mac and IE6. That's a weird one that I've gone back 
and forth with.

So my menu (navigation) is unreadable on your computer? I've seen it now 
on 2 macs and 5 PC's and none showed a problem with that, yet I think 
the last person who was helping me referred to something of that nature 
that I didn't understand. Hmm!?!? The only thing I'm seeing ever so 
often is that the colored bullets go horizontal about 300 pixels or so, 
but when refreshed or links rolled over with the mouse, then they're  
ok. Wish I new why it does that in IE6 only.

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>>http://videointegrations.com/serenity/procedure_relax_pleasure.html
>>http://videointegrations.com/serenity/layout.css
>>Look at the bottom for #footer
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>>The Horizontal scroll bar only in IE6 is apparently caused by the
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>footer. I
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>>can't figure out how to get rid of it without causing the problems I
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>resolved
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>>in using the css for this particular footer. Compared to anything in
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>the wiki,
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>>I think this footer is best, with exception to this.
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>I didn't find the exact solution but I can point out several problems
>that will steer you in the right direction.
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>- you can't have 100% width on the same div as you define borders if you
>don't want horizontal scrolling
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>- the header has padding-right that is pushing the horizontal scrolling
>farther than it otherwise would be
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>- deleting the margins on #AllContent decreased the scrolling
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>- deleting the padding on #Content took it down farther, too
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>- deleting the margin/padding on #MiddleContent took it down even
>farther.  Almost gone now.
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>Hopefully you can finish the rest up.  :)
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>Other notes:
>- your header has borders with 0px width
>- your menu is impossible for me to read because of the coloring.  I
>can't see it at all
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