Tina Clarke wrote: >No that's not it .. that was me trying to see if the white would go away ... >I'm guessing, though I've not tested it yet, that Thierry is right. > >That colour above is grey not white .... even i can read that right off:) > >[...] > >MMMmmmm I appreciate you took the time to look at the code .. > >(thinking: however you did not test it first (obviously) and gave me a >wrong answer, which btw was so obviously wrong because otherwise the colour >code would be saying white!... I tell you this for your own elucidation. ) >(and thinking perhaps before trying to answer cleverly you first take the >time to test the answer) > >Why you feel the need to point out the obvious to me, re your 'golden tips' >and word comments I've no idea really. You were wrong there too, however on >one point. > >the idea that fp03 and international html/css standards of w3c don't have >anything in common and further to that ..... > >Always check your web editor (which includes np) pages in different browsers >(and there are more than two btw) and with the validators, one checks with >them no matter what editor one is using. > >Tina > francky says: no doubt I've a lot to learn, but in the meantime:
1. If it was you, "trying to see if the white would go away", you garbaged it too fast (should have seen it is working - no question about it needed). 2. I did not mean that it was *your* code with the grey in it (it wasn't), but that it was *the code that had to be implemented* to get what you wanted. Sorry if my reaction was perhaps too cryptical. ("see the happy violin" = my kind of humor = in this way it fiddles o.k.) 3. Before I send any comment to the list, I'm checking my suggestions (with at least html-/css-validation, often WAI-validation or speed test, and mostly in 6 different browsers to see the optical result). When I am not sure, I say that or don't give a suggestion. - I don't always include the testing files. The testing files I used for my tip to you was this one <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/fp-tips.htm>, linking to this one <http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/rightmenu.htm>. Check please! ;-) 4. If my monitor is not showing wrong colors, I thougt I would be the grey you needed instead of the white. So: "... a wrong answer, so obviously wrong ..."? Or perhaps I completely misunderstood your starting question ("What am I doing wrong with the ezine sign up box so that it appears in white?"). 5. In his reaction, Thierry Koblenz said just the same "It's your TD. Try: td {background:red} to see what I'm talking about. [...]". - Because of time difference or a mailing retard I found his suggestion after I send mine, otherwise I shouldn't have spend my time to explore/react. Anyway, I came independently to exact the same conclusion, and added which TD's it where and what to do. 6. m/f was shorthand for masc./fem. (could also have said: f/m) 7. Mostly Firefox is enough as checkpoint to see if a webpage of someone else is IE-only, apart from the need to test in more then 2 browsers if you are developing a page yourself. My recommendation for especially good testing when a page is made with MS FrontPage was based on my experience, which goes to FP2000 (giving proprietary IE-only code before you know) - hope FP2003 is better - but this is off-topic. 8. More off-topic: thanks for caring about my elucidation. As professional in adult education (about 25 years ago I got an universital degree in social sciences and pedagogic) I always enjoy deliberate positive feedback. 9. End of my postings in this topic: cheers, francky kleyneman ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/