> I am struggling to educate the design team about using sensible font > sizes - all their designs come out with tiny fonts and then when I > create the layout with sensible sizes it tends to knock out the layout. > > One of the biggest problems is that they bounce around design 'proofs' > in PDF format so when expanded on their big monitors the font sizes > look fine. >
You've already received some good lists in response to this, but as an aside I would suggest one thing which seems to concentrate designers' minds: make them turn off antialiasing of fonts in Photoshop (or whatever design tool they use). I've lost count of the number of times I've had to explain to clients that their pages don't look like the designs because the designs were antialiased and the browser doesn't do that (unless you use a Mac, or a Win box with LCD screen and ClearType enabled). Just a few weeks ago my current clients filed a bug report that the wrong font was being used; I had to send them screenshots proving that it was indeed Tahoma, and that the reason the site looked so different to the designs (produced by another company) was lack of smoothing. At a previous employer, I actually managed to get the in-house designers to disable antialiasing of text in Photoshop, and the number of such objections dropped to zero. The designers (eventually) came around to it, as at least they could design something that looked like it would in reality, rather than the ideal world of their monitors. HTH, Nick. -- Nick Fitzsimons http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/ ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/