Keep in mind also that directly indicating measurement types is always a plus, and you can shortcut colors when you are dealing with paired sets. Thus
#navigation { > background: #336699; > float: left; > margin: 0 0 0 0 !important; /* original code, this will show in > mozilla */ > margin: -5px 0 0 0; /* this will be what shows in IE */ > } becomes #navigation { background: #369; float: left; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px !important; /* FF */ margin: -5px 0px 0px 0px; /* IE */ } However, that said, negative measurements are a generally bad idea. If you need to push something beyond it's natural location in a negative manner, you need to rethink that locative in the first place. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/