I usually set the gradient as a graphic on html, and give body a solid background. I think you'll need to use divs instead for IE5 support, but i'm not sure on that. This is all assuming a fixed width. For a fluid width, it gets icky. ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/