Jakob Persson wrote:

> [...]
>
>Thank you very much for taking your time setting this up. I attempted to use
>GIFs but I never managed to get the GIFs to look good enough but these ones
>you made look real nice and sharp, with high color fidelity. The problem I
>can see is with the background elements sliding under it and the drop
>shadows I have but it seems to work great with the GIFs you got there.
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>
Some finetuning in drawing the img's, I'll send you the used method 
off-list.

>>btw 2, At some moments, not always, your page is loading very slowly, 
>>especially in FF (?). To see what is downloaded all together, I tried 
>>the speed tester of WebSiteOptimization.com, but that is failing - don't 
>>know why. See speed rapport request 
>><http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/wso.php?url=http://www
>>.jakob-persson.com/>. 
>>    
>>
>I'm using a Drupal module that prevents spam bots from accessing the site,
>it seems to block this site as well. I'll have to disable the module and
>test the site.
>What might slow it down is the IE behavior which traverses the DOM tree to
>load the alpha for the PNG files.
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>
Another reason to get rid of it! ;-)

>>btw 2, Why shouldn't you combine all the nav-images and their 
>>hover-variants in 1 image, and use css-hover instead of the 
>>"MM_preloadImages()" script and a lot of html-mouse codes? It can 
>>simplify and speed up the pages, I guess.
>>    
>>
>That would be a good idea. I'd like to use the PNGs for now but reducing the
>number of PNGs to just one and use the alphaimageloader filter in the CSS
>instead, that would speed things up considerably.
>
>Reason I don't use CSS hovers is because images for navigation is an old
>technique which produces similar behavior across browsers, whereas css
>hovers aren't so predictable, I was thinking of using an <ul><li> list, the
>ones I've seen so far haven't been consistent across browser. And for this
>part of the site where a 1 pixel gap would be highly visible I opted to use
>a more traditional technique. However it would sort the image preloading,
>and would speed up page load time.
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>
I think you haven't to be too afraid for 1px differences in hovering 
css-images. They are almost 1/2px predictable! - If the images fit in 
the combined img, they can be pixel-precisely positioned.

>Well I have to head off and do some experimentation!
>Again, thank you very much!
>
>Jakob
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>
To compare, some experiments about transparency:
    Transparent png-like gifs 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/css-discuss/transparent_gif_test.htm>,
    Semi-transparent css-dropshadows 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/transparency/transparent-dropshadow.htm>.
About css-hovers and background-positioning:
    Article in Dutch: 3 css-hoverable buttons, 6 images combined 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/port-hole/knoppenblok.htm>.
    Positioning of background-images in css: The port-hole theory 
<http://home.tiscali.nl/developerscorner/port-hole/porthole.htm>.

Good luck!
francky

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