Thanks Bill and Georg for your suggestions.

> The short answer is that you need to specify a height for your  
> fieldsets.

Thanks!!!  It works in all the browsers I have.

>
> The longer answer is that there's really no reason to block any  
> browser
> because even if your products are exclusively for the Mac, your  
> website
> isn't.


I'm not interested in blocking a platform. I just don't want to try  
to support a broken browser with my limited abilities -- even if it  
does have the lion of the market share. IE is not secure and requires  
web developers to write non-compliant code.  There are lots of  
alternatives to IE and I wish that people would use them. Although  
I've been too busy to read all the posts here, I've tried to read as  
much as I can and I've noticed that a huge proportion of the posts  
are problems with IE that wouldn't be happening if MS wouldn't play  
these games to try to corner and keep the browser market. It's  
irritating enough that they use these bullying and coercive marketing  
tactics. What's worse is that the thing is buggy and broken and  
filled with security issues. Has anyone ever done an analysis to see  
how much IE has cost businesses and consumers - from development  
costs to security holes leading to theft from banks, loss of  
productivity from worms and virus and trojans,etc? I know that our  
potential customers may have Macs at home, but browse on the web at  
work on PCs. I hope that they can use Firefox or some other browser  
on their PCs.

> Many of my clients have and use both Macs and PCs in their offices
> and homes so just because your product is for the Mac doesn't mean  
> the user
> will be using a Mac when they view your website in search of products.

I'm trying to get the site to work on every possible browser. I just  
don't want to play the MS games. It seems to work on IE7, so I'm not  
blocking it. I guess I could try to let IE6 and lower through, but  
just warn them that they'll have layout issues. The other option is  
to see if I can try to get it to work on IE6 and below. But, I have  
no way to test it and we need to go live ASAP. I could put up the  
site and then try to get it running on IE and replace it later...  
argghhh...

> In my
> opinion, the savvier choice is to design a website accessible to  
> both. Your
> design isn't so complicated that this can't be accomplished easily.  
> I've
> attached my version of your page which renders just dandy in FF and  
> IE6.

The biggest problem is the png and rollover issue. I don't want to  
slow everything down on other browsers to make it work on IE, either,  
or risk breaking it on other browsers, since I really don't know what  
I'm doing.

> Now, there's probably tweaks to make and I'm importing and over- 
> writing some
> of your styling, but the point is, it can be done. That being  
> said...I'm
> curious to know how all the various arrangements on my site would  
> render in
> Safari (http://www.macnimble.com).

Everything looks great to me. I'd be happy to send you screenshots if  
you like. I can email them to you or put them up on a server.

> Every arrangement on that site uses the
> exact same HTML; it just has a different style sheet applied. I  
> know it
> performs well in about 90% of the browsers out there and Safari  
> emulators
> seem ok with it. You might want to have a look at it and see if  
> there's
> anything there you can use.

Thanks. I'll take a look. We were thinking of making different looks  
for different users using different style sheets. But, I had a hard  
enough time coming up with one design. I suck at design -- even worse  
than the coding...

Thanks again, Bill. I'll go over your rewrite and try to learn how  
this works, so I can figure it out for myself in the future.

Rella


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