Mark -- My sympathies, as well. I think Leah's advice is good, though I get very frustrated when I think I know how to crank something out and then find a standards violation in IE is going to require more hours of work than the original design did. I get tempted to just abandon people that still insist on using IE. After all, there are so many great standards-based browsers that are free and work better than IE.
I also sometimes think about the billions of dollars that have been lost to Microsoft's obstinance and wonder why the industry hasn't seriously taken them to task on this and forced them to implement a browser we can all work with. The bottom line is usually a great motivator. Well, maybe the "market" will get to them some day, though it doesn't often act with the greatest wisdom. --Kenoli Message: 19 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:11:39 +1000 From: Lea de Groot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [css-d] URGENT... Client's requirement changed... Rip and tearat an entire CSS now?? To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Marc wrote: <snip> > So yeah, I reverted to tables. I'm so tired of fighting with CSS, > browser > differences, and a much lower productivity rate than I used to have, > that at > this point I'm starting not to care. I thought I had planned out the > css on > this site well enough to be able to institute changes fairly easily, > and I > was horribly wrong. CSS is killing my business... The smaller the > shop, the > more it's about "DELIVER". I had to deliver...and for the other > sites I'm > building, the situation is no different. I would love to do the > csszengarden thing, but I also need to feed my family. > Hi Marc! I hear your frustration, but don't be too disillusioned - tell me, when you first started building web pages with tables, did being able to execute any layout come overnight, or did it take time? It took some time to get the various techniques down pat, right? Theres no reason that it won't take you some time to come up to speed with CSS-based layouts either. Give it a chance - maybe on your less high priority projects? - and it will all come together sooner than you probably find likely right now. And a good nights sleep - that always works wonders :) warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems Brisbane, Australia Kenoli Oleari Neighborhood Assemblies Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-601-8217 http://www.sfnan.org http://www.horizonsofchange.com ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/