I am not getting it then. Sorry bout that. The flash object would be  
controlled by the padding of the parent div. In this case the padding  
then leaves room for the header div that is using negative top margin.

SOrry about that.

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On Oct 24, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Paul Novitski wrote:

> At 10/24/2006 12:22 PM, David Merwin wrote:
>> Couldn't you use padding and negative margins?
>>
>> div1 {height:100%; padding:2em 0 0 0;}
>> div2 {height:2em; margin:-2em 0 0 0;}
>>
>> <div id="div1">
>> <div id="div2"></div>
>> </div>
>
> On Oct 24, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Paul Novitski wrote:
>>> <http://juniperwebcraft.com/test/ 
>>> PercentMinusEmsProblem.html>http://juniperwebcraft.com/test/ 
>>> PercentMinusEmsProblem.html
>>>
>>> Please understand that I'm not looking for a faux layout in which  
>>> the
>>> eye is fooled, you know, by giving the content block 100% height and
>>> letting the header reside inside or overlay it with absolute
>>> positioning.  Because my content block will contain a Flash object
>>> that will expand to the dimensions of its container, I need the
>>> container to truly begin at the bottom of the header.
>
> Thanks, David, but as I said I need a container that is 100% - 2em
> high, not a container that is 100% height and contains a 2em high
> block.  In my limited experience marking up Flash objects, Flash
> expands to fill its container without regard to any other content
> that might be there, so I really want that content box to be the
> header's sibling, not its parent.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
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