On Oct 24, 2006, at 5:58 PM, Css Discuss wrote: > What do YOU (plural) do? > > Do you say, "I'm sticking ot standards, piss on your browser if it > doesn't > look good!"?
Nope. > Do you make your pages simple so that there's flexability in the > design, so > that browsers don't notice the difference? > (Think Google) Almost got it, but that's also a bit extreme. > Do you go bonkers (or spend a ton of time) learning the work > arounds so that > instead of a specialist in CSS you become a specialist in the work > arounds > that hopefully will be gone in a few years?!?! Exaggerated, but yes. Exaggerated, because it doesn't take tons of time. Rachel Andrew, bless her heart, has pulled together a bunch of them in CSS Anthology (Sitepoint) and Joe Lowery's CSS Hacks and Filters is another good source. Websites like http://tantek.com/ and http://www.positioniseverything.net/ as well as css-d's own http:// css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssHack will give you most of what you need. You can spend a few free hours gaining a general familiarity with the concepts, to help you find the required hack/filter faster when you need it, or you can wait until you're up against it and then look for it. They key word in your "gone in a few years" comment is "hopefully." Most of the particular bugs will be gone in a few years, though some will, I'm sure, still be with us. The background-position: fixed bug of IE5 was still there in 5.5, and in 6, and it may quite possibly still be there in 7 (I haven't looked for it there, yet). So it stayed around for a decade, give or take. But even if the particular bug that a workaround was designed for is fixed, it'll be several more years after that before you can safely stop working around it, because your audience will continue to use buggy browsers. Those of us who survived Netscape 4.0 can tell you it quite often seems users are most attached to the browsers that perform the worst. And besides that, you can often use the workaround to make something else work as well. So you're not spending time learning techniques you'll only use for a few months or a year. The general idea behind the hacks and filters will be useful for many years to come. There's a lot to be said for Budd's POV, you should never get so you rely on only one tool, but they remain useful tools in your toolbox and it would be foolish to refrain from using them entirely. > I'd really like to get good with CSS, even REALLY good, I totally > intrigued > by them, as much as programming. > It just feels hiking in deep mud,.. WAY too much work. I need to > earn a > living here. Get familiar with a concept Covey calls "Sharpen the Saw." You need to do things today that won't pay off until later, things which will keep your skills sharp and keep you from becoming obsolete. This is one of those things. No, you won't get paid for it today, but without it you may not get paid tomorrow. You can't keep cutting wood efficiently if you don't keep the saw sharp. Hey, if it was easy, *anyone* could do it. And *then* how would you get paid for it? Have Fun, Arlen ------------------------------ In God we trust, all others must supply data ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
