e lohroff wrote: > Is that because my content div is non-float? I did it and it worked, > but I don't understand *why*.
Yes, it's because your content div is a non-float in the flow. The "why" is a combination of old IE/win bugs for the 'overflow' property (where different IE-versions handle that property differently) and the fact that a negative 'margin-bottom' does not reduce the measurable size of the element (as IE sees it). This may seem like a weak explanation ... and it is. I can't seek much help in, or point to, the standards either, since they are pretty vague on such matters - leaving most decisions to browser-developers. We can do a lot of float-manipulations[1], and drag IE/win along with a few, not too ugly, workarounds. Manipulating non-floats (elements in the flow) is an entirely different matter, and IE has its own set of limitations which I usually write off as 'absurd bugs'[2] since not even those who develop that bugger seem to have much control over it. Other browsers have 'absurd bugs' too, but not nearly as many as IE. Future browser-versions may behave differently, so we have to keep track of them and their bugs. I don't think we need a deeper understanding of their bugs though. We only need to know how to work around their weaknesses without creating our own designer-bugs - hoping that browser-developers can manage to reduce the number of bugs and the need for workarounds to a more acceptable level some day in the future. So, I can't really tell you _why_ IE behaves like it does on this point, and I can't even find a good reason for taking the time to figure it out. My advice is that you write a note to yourself about the potential problem, and just carry on. regards Georg [1]http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_demo_float_02.html [2]http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/molly_1_15.html -- http://www.gunlaug.no ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/