[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyway, any thoughts on what works with ems or keywords so that > everything is resizeable would be interesting to me.
Resize everything, or just the text? Thoughts don't help here since those browsers won't listen to anything but commands they understand, and I have no idea what you are trying to achieve - apart from resizing. The above isn't an attempt on making your questions look silly, as trying to achieve "reliably resizing" across browser-land is serious enough. However, I can think of many combinations that works - depending on what kind of layout they are supposed to work in, so more definitive answers can only be given when the design/layout conditions are known. ------------------------------***--------------------------------------- Discussion about font-size and resizing tend to go up in flames, simply because each person has his/hers own opinions on the subject. So, let's avoid that and establish some facts instead. That's why we also need to know the conditions. ------------------------------***--------------------------------------- What works every time and for every web designer, is to know about _all_ resizing options in any and all browsers one care to support. Most browsers can resize fonts (etc.) in more than one way, and they don't follow the same strategy. The next step is to test with _every_ combination of resize options in _all_ those browsers, until you are satisfied with the result. Again, don't expect the _same_ results across browser-land, so you may have to define for yourself what is "good enough" in each of them. Then - if the range of expected or invited visitors can be expected to have deviating preferences and/or needs relative to yours (something that is highly likely), you may also take some time off and learn something about those deviations so you are sure your final product can take a reasonable part of the stress. You have to define what "reasonable" means here. --- The bottom line is: don't ask others "what works" in general. Instead you yourself should test and find out "what works" and "how it works" - for you and your designs. It is of course equally important to find out "what doesn't work" and "why it doesn't work" for you and your design. Here are some links to help you along... <http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_02.html> <http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_04.html> <http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_additions_13.html> ...and I'm happy with the knowledge I put in there as it was at the time I put it in, and the solutions I have derived from it. Nothing is static, so you may find a few changes and variations in later browsers and updated sites. None of them have made me consider changing my general strategy during the last couple of years though. --- General font sizing strategy at my end is as follows: Base (html and, body or a suitable container further in)... font-size: 100% (or larger - never smaller). Headlines (h1 - h5)... font-size: in a suitable percentage *or* em. Details (like footer-text)... font-size: 82% or .82em (or something of that nature). All containers and other elements inherit base-value = 100%. Then I test - as mentioned above, and adjust details until I'm satisfied with the result across browser-land. Rarely any surprises or need for adjustments at this stage, but I go through full testing anyway. See those pages I've linked to to see what I test for. Note that you won't find a 'font-size keyword' anywhere in my stylesheets - unless it is specifically added for testing-purposes. That's a personal choice, but also that I can do without corrections needed for some older browsers. Note also that I haven't found any real weaknesses with percentage as font-size base and em/percentages further in, since Opera 7.2 had its "one size larger" behavior. Later Opera versions have behaved fine. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
