Hi George, I understand where you are coming from. I put together logic, helps, and layouts over a very frustrating 2 80 hour weeks. However, I could see early on the advantages over cleverly stacking boxes. The most valuable thing that I did is to understand the elements and then thought about different scenarios how they would be useful. Then I spent time a lot of time on sites learning how people creatively used these concepts. Along the way I documented my thoughts, scenarios, and solutions in my database. Then I read through the browser bugs.
After that two weeks I had a 3 column layout that works better than anything on I could find at even the famous CSS sites, a CSS menu system that looks and works better than anything I've seen anywhere on the web, and a home page. I also adjusted my coding habits to XHTML 1.1 standards. I learned that Microsoft makes a much poorer quality browser than I thought and that even their latest version simply succeeds in innovating the distant past. The unfortunate fact of life is that it ships with the defacto standard operating system and thus has 90% of the browser market, and it's on a 5 year release cycle. A home page was not much to get done in 4 weeks worth of hours. However I came to a different conclusion. I don't think about how to make a table site in CSS. The skill of stacking boxes and using shims(clear.gif) to get the picture to the right place on the wall took time to acquire. Learning to pound a nail in the wall at the right place to hang the picture did too, and I don't miss the huge box mess. Today, I don't have the time nor the inclination to return to building sites that use tables, and it surely isn't the future of the web. I made a run at making CSS layout work for me at least once before I broke through. See you when you return. Best of luck, Jack T. PS: I learned just this week from an Adobe CS3 sales webmovie that this is a good place to come if you need an idea. I found that to be true. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 5:16 PM To: css-d Subject: [css-d] CSS Layoutnot ready for prime time. After reading this list for a few weeks and trying out many of the ideas and suggestions, I conclude that CSS for layout purposes is just not ready for prime time, as opposed to using it for fonts, colors, sizes, etc., for which it is extremely suitable. There are still too many browser work-arounds and bugs to make it worth the effort. I guess I'll just have to continue with tables for the time being. George ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
