Ray Leventhal wrote:
> david wrote:
> <snip>
>>> While in a perfect world I'd agree with David, it's not so much the
>>> 'tender egos of folk involved in designing the site' it's usually,
>>> imnsho, the un- or refused-to-be-educated folk who actually pay for the
>>> site to look/feel a certain way.
>>>
>>> 0.02 delivered :)
>> Part of this business is education. It may take awhile. Reinforced with
>> factual information demonstrating how customers unhappy with their
>> mousetype are happily shopping at their competition's websites sometimes
>> helps. ;-)
>>
> david:
> 
> Without at doubt, educating clients is truly the hardest part of my job.
>   But nonetheless the one I do most often.  Sometimes they're agreeable
> and open to suggestions for reasons of browser compatibility or
> accessibility.  Other times they're um...less reasonable :)

Some people learn one way, others learn other ways. For some folk, 
business cases are a way to learn.

> Either way, I agree that getting people to 'see right' is the key...and
> that often means defending the 'reasons that separation of content and
> layout is a good idea'.  Thankfully, I am a true believer in that, now
> (amazing since a year ago I'd have fought diligently for my ol'
> tables!).  I generally preach standards adherence, but since reading
> some really good things from this list about serving XHTML as XML, I've
> worked towards getting clients to understand a bit more of the "how and
> why" rather than the "this is just good practice".

Thank you for helping improve the future for web designers everywhere! :-)

-- 
David
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