Hi Phoebe, I'm new to the list too. Here is something to try:

.firstpar {
font-size: 13px;
color:#4d4d4d;
margin-left: 15px;
margin-right: 300px;
margin-top:0;
margin-bottom: .8em;
padding:1em 0 0 0;
border: none;
}

I took out the margin on the top and added padding to instead. It works in
FF, I didn't try it elsewhere.

I find it super helpful to use FF for development using the web developer
toolbar plugin. It has a built-in CSS editor you can use to tweak CSS on
your screen and see instant results. Usually once your site works right you
can then adjust for bugs that come up in IE.

http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/60 

Good luck!
Lisa

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Subject: [css-d] New to list - space at top of background image?

Hello all.  I'm trying to redesign a site and use CSS to get some of the old
effects that I had with Javascript.  Basically, it's a simple
brochure site.   I bought a book on CSS to get my feet wet and after a
few days, below are the pages I've come up with.  I've checked them in
FF, Opera, and IE 7.   I need to check them in IE 6, but I don't have
that installed on my computer.  Is there a website that will show me what it
looks like in IE6?

The main problem I'm having is a gap that seems to be present between the
site menu and the background image on the div that holds the main
content for each page.   With the Contact page especially, every time
I increase the margin on the <p> tag to try to center the contact
information vertically, it forces the sketch image downwards.  I'm thinking
the two are linked, but I can't think of any other way to get the spacing
for the text and keep the background image up where I want
it to be.   Any help is vastly appreciated.

the page links:

www.cgraytaylor.net/index3.html
www.cgraytaylor.net/links2.html
www.cgraytaylor.net/Contact.html

I really like the possibilities that CSS offers.  It seems a much clearer
way of doing things than my old nested tables habit.  Well, if
I can get it figured out.   :)
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