Try making the rule more specific: p.firstparagraph or even change it to an id: #firstparagraph
Ids are more specific than classes, and I find their behavior more predictable than classes, because they get more "weight". To keep it all valid though, you don't want to use the an id more than once per document. If you upload the other fix I can look at it in IE7 and IE6 for you. Make sure your IE is looking at the latest stylesheet - sometimes a simple reload isn't enough to grab it. You have to go into IE7 > Tools > Internet Options > Browsing History "Settings" button, then change "check for newer.." to "Every time" - also empty the cache by clicking the "Delete" button under Browsing History, the click "Delete files" next to Temporary Internet files. During CSS layout debugging, I like to add a background color to show where my divs are - like background:pink - since the background won't add any width like a border will. You won't forget to take it out either because the color is so loud. :) You might also want to make your layout a smidge narrower, (around 760) since 800px wide will cause horizontal scrollbars when viewed at 800x600 resolution. Good luck! Lisa RE: Lisa, the new format for the .firstparagraph seems to work in FF as you said. I'll have to find a work around in IE7, as it doesn't work there. (the headache with IE begins) ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/