Hi Christian

>That way I found out that if you delete the 
>height: 1%; for the footer, the the #fauxframe is displayed:

That worked like a magic charm - I am so relieved - thank you.

However, in IE 6 it resulted in the footer 
relocating itself halfway up the page, so I put 
back the height but with an underscore in front of it, ie

_height: 1%;/* to fix footer to bottom of screen in IE6 */

and that did return to the footer to the bottom 
of the screen in IE6.  Somewhere I have read, 
though, that using underscore like this is not a 
good idea (though it works).  When I have time, I could try substituting

* html body div#footer, div#pieddepage, div#seitenende {
   height: 1%;
   }

which, I understand, is visible only to IE6, not 
to IE7, but I don't know if that would be "better" coding.

>Don't aks me why that fotter style influences 
>the #fauxframe , because honestly I don't know. ;)

CSS is full of things like this, isn't it?  I 
more than half-expected the solution to be completely illogical  :-)

This is a wonderful list; I hope that I can give 
back to it as much good as I have derived from it.

Kind regards
Rachel


At 10:27 28/08/2008, Christian Kirchhoff wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I started deleting parts of your page (of the html code) and recognized
>that after I deleted the footer, the.#fauxframe was displayed. Then I
>inserted the footer again and started commenting out its CSS
>definitions. That way I found out that if you delete the height: 1%; for
>the footer, the the #fauxframe is displayed:
>
>#footer, #pieddepage, #seitenende {
>clear: both;
>margin: 0;
>padding: 0 0 3em 20em;
>font-size: 70%;
>/*height: 1%;*/ <-- comment this out
>text-align: left;
>}
>
>Don't aks me why that fotter style influences the #fauxframe , because
>honestly I don't know. ;)
>
>Best regards,
>
>Christian Kirchhoff
>*Directmedia Publishing GmbH* · Möckernstraße 68 · 10965 Berlin
>www.digitale-bibliothek.de
>AG Berlin-Charlottenburg · HR B 58002 · USt.Id. DE173211737
>Geschäftsführer: Ralf Szymanski
>
>
>Rachel Mawhood schrieb:
> > Hello list
> >
> > Well, I've tried a number of things - clear:both, zoom:1, min-height,
> > removing the mask.gif, etc - but nothing so far has worked.  I have
> > Googled the problem, looked at positioniseeverything and other
> > bug-fixing sites, but without finding the solution.  It is so far
> > completely baffling.  I have read that IE7 has a problem rendering
> > elements with background images whose parent and/or child also
> > contains a background image (as is the case here, in that the body
> > has a tiled background image) but it is so strange that, in this
> > case, it is OK on one page and not on the others.
> >
> > In MSIE 7 this page displays the image of the trumpets and organ
> > pipes as intended
> >
> > http://www.internationalorganbuilders.com/members/index.php
> >
> > It uses exactly the same css files and template as these pages, on
> > which the image cannot be made to appear in IE7, eg
> >
> > http://www.internationalorganbuilders.com/board/index.php
> > http://www.internationalorganbuilders.com/congress/index.php
> >
> > The CSS files are here (I've taken the index.html file out of this
> > directory for the time being)
> >
> > http://www.internationalorganbuilders.com/styles/isoconsole.css
> > http://www.internationalorganbuilders.com/styles/iso-images.css
> >
> > I can't remove the tiled background image in the body because the
> > client specifically wanted this.
> >
> > I would be very grateful indeed for any pointers to why the Members
> > page is OK and the others are not OK with the image at the top of the page.
> >
> > TVIA
> > Rachel
> >
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