Re: [css-d] s now a legitimate presentational device for layout according to W3C

Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:03:39 -0700

At 4:32 PM +0000 3/16/11, Tim Dawson wrote:
On 16/03/2011 14:50, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Barney Carroll wrote:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0245.html

The message exhaustively details the pertinent points in a long and
laborious debate, culminating in the conclusion at line 214:

*** Decision of the Working Group ***

Therefore, the HTML Working Group hereby adopts the "Allow tables to be
used for presentational purposes" Proposal for ISSUE-130. Of the Change
Proposals before us, this one has drawn the weaker objections.

In short, this means that HTML5 rescinds HTML4's guidance on the use
of the table markup structure for its presentational layout
attributes, such that such use will now be HTML5-valid, provided said
table has a role attribute set to "presentation" [1].

There may be the occasional instance where I might use a
presentational table, but for the vast majority of cases, I find
CSS uses far less mark-up and styling than table-based
presentation.

I agree, I wouldn't dream of going back to nested tables for presentation. Tables are for...tables.

I wonder if the Working Group's decision is just a sop to those who've never bothered to learn anything better ?

--
Tim Dawson


As I just told an associate -- After a decade of fighting against using tables for presentation, we finally win and promptly give up.

In a previous post today, there was a question as to how to vertically align three boxes and my first thought was to use a table (did I say that out loud?). Old habits die hard.

Cheers,

tedd
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