Oops. Sorry, forgot about CSS-D mail-handling policies. This was meant for everyone. Yeah, I ended up in the same boat. Shame :(
FWIW I recently discovered Open Sans, which has the same nice hinting, relative lightness, and pleasant rounded glyphs as Calibri — but you can embed everywhere with no legal repercussions: http://www.google.com/webfonts/specimen/Open+Sans Regards, Barney Carroll [email protected] +44 7429 177278 barneycarroll.com On 5 March 2012 11:01, Jukka K. Korpela <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Barney, > > Thanks for your comments. Did you intend to send it personally only? I'm > asking because people often (well, very often) get confused with the > css-discuss list settings (default is to reply to sender only, not to the > list). > > I tried to play a bit with font-size-adjust, too, but it's apparently still > a Firefox-only feature and might not even be suitable for this. Any value > seems to either make Arial too small or Calibri too big. > > The fundamental problem seems to be the "atomicity" of CSS: you cannot bind > font-family and font-size settings together, for example (i.e. cannot say > "use this font size for this font family, and that font size for that font > family"). > > Yucca > > > > 2012-03-05 12:51, Barney Carroll wrote: >> >> Hiya Yucca, >> >> The exact same problem bugged me when Calibri came out — a lot of >> people have Calibri, and when they do it's probably the nicest sans >> available, but when they don't font-size will be screwed because of >> aspect ratios. CSS does apparently cater for this via font-size-adjust >> [1] — but browser implementation varies and when I experimented with >> it (I was trying to achieve what you described) I found it >> impracticable to any satisfactory degree of control and gave up on >> using it. Sadly I can't remember the specifics as to what wasn't >> working — YMMV… >> >> In my mind this is the kind of thing that you should be able to >> specify in font-face rules — per-font CSS customisation for the sake >> of differentiating presentation depending on fallbacks in the >> font-family stack. >> >> [1] http://www.fonttester.com/help/css_property/font-size-adjust.html >> >> >> Regards, >> Barney Carroll >> >> >> [email protected] >> +44 7429 177278 >> >> barneycarroll.com >> >> >> >> On 5 March 2012 10:17, Jukka K. Korpela<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Suppose that you wish to use a font like Calibri, a sens-serif font with >>> small size of letters (with respect to font size), as the copy text font. >>> What would you list as fallback fonts, for use when Calibri is not >>> available? >>> >>> The problem is that most commonly available sans-serif fonts have >>> different >>> characteristics, looking much bigger in the same font size. Designers >>> often >>> set font size to something small (absolutely, e.g. 12px, or relatively, >>> e.g. >>> 85%). While this may look good to most people when e.g. Arial is used, it >>> makes Calibri far too small. >>> >>> Any ideas? Just using font-family: Calibri, sans-serif (and leaving >>> font-size to 100%) should not be catastrophic, but can we do better? I >>> first >>> thought of using fonts like Gautami (to cover almost all Windows systems) >>> but then realized that such fonts have very limited character coverage >>> (basically just Latin 1 and the particular script, like Telugu, for which >>> they have been designed). >>> >>> -- >>> Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/ >>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>> css-discuss [[email protected]] >>> http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d >>> List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ >>> List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html >>> Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [[email protected]] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
