On May 12, 2013, at 7:04 PM, Alan Gresley <a...@css-class.com> wrote:

> No, you simply have collapsing margins. Just change the value of the top 
> margin to zero. Like so.
> 
> header{
>       margin:0 0 1em 0;
>       border:red 1px solid;
> }

Thank you. Couple questions…I did have a border on the header..isnt that 
supposed to prevent the collapsing margins scenario?

Also,  need to have a top margin value for the header so that I can position it 
vertically where I need it to, so am I forced to use padding for this?

thank you..off to read the link you provided

J
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