Hi John, Try replacing these declarations. I "think" this is what your wanting.
/* new header nav */ #main_nav{ /* border:1px solid red; */ /* border:1px solid rgb(255,255,255); */ /* float:left; */ /* width:100%; */ } #main_nav ul{ list-style-type:none; /* position:relative; */ margin:.5em 0 0 0; padding:0 0 0 1.25em; } #middle{ /* border:1px solid green; */ margin:0; /* padding:2em 0 0 0; */ /*overflow: :hidden;*/ } #footer_nav ul li ul{ margin:1em 0 0 0; /* position:absolute; */ visibility:hidden; opacity:0; transition:visibility 0s linear 0.35s, opacity 0.5s linear; } HTH, Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:11 PM, John <j...@coffeeonmars.com> wrote: > At this link, http://www.coffeeonmars.com/screenshots/menu-prob/product.php I > am having issues with the header nav in that I feel I’ve done a lot of > kludges to get it to behave correctly and not explode the page.. > > ...such as giving a white 1px border to the nav (else everything below it > disappears!) > > I know that some floats are necessary to make the child menu items behave > correctly, but I’ve had to float the menu itself or else the sub nav at the > left (also floated left) shoots over to the right. > > My question: can anyone suggest how I might better construct this header nav? > it basically looks the way it needs to; would prefer fewer kludges to get it > that way. Fewer kludges tells me fewer things to bite me down the road. > > Thank you! > > John > ______________________________________________________________________ > css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] > http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d > List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ > List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html > Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/