Hi

Jason asked about the 'helper text' on forms, what Twitter is using is an
HTML5 feature known as 'placeholder text' which is intended as a guide to
help users fill in forms. Have a read of
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/common-input-element-attributes.html#the-placeholder-attribute


It's not yet supported by all browsers (they know who they are!) but it's
possible to detect if it is supported and then use jquery to provide a
fallback. There's a tutorial on how to do this at
http://webdesignerwall.com/tutorials/cross-browser-html5-placeholder-text

<http://webdesignerwall.com/tutorials/cross-browser-html5-placeholder-text>
HTH

Cheers,
Mick
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On 22 April 2011 21:12, Donna Blumberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here's an instructor's take on tables.
>
> I'm taking a level 2 web design class from the community college Visual
> Communication Dept. The instructor clearly knows his stuff - we're learning
> all about the web 2.0 design differences, using css frameworks and more. I
> asked him  when it's appropriate  to use tables. I have a site that has
> numerous pages with 2 columns of same-size photos with captions and used
> tables to position the photos/captions because I didn't have the CSS
> knowledge to do otherwise.
>
> When I asked him (and he saw the pages), he surprised me by saying that
> using tables for that instance was fine. (I also now have a CSS book that
> describes how to use css to position rows/columns of photos.) So I think the
> general answer is to avoid tables when reasonably possible. Among other
> issues, I've read that they take 2 "passes" to fully transmit the layout and
> data..And there can be accessibility issues if they are not coded properly.
>
> Definitely avoid them for general layout, as you want to separate the data
> and presentation whenever possible, especially given the variety of screen
> widths across various devices such as computer monitors, tablets and all of
> the mobile devices. Using CSS allows much more flexibility in your
> presentation... and sometimes tables are the most appropriate answer.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:11 PM, buyz lots <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I would call those alerts :)  but you are right, it can be done with
>> onclick and using javascript to show the elements.  As for tables, it just
>> make sense to put a form in a table but it may have something to do with
>> with ruby.  Honestly, I really don't know though.
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Jason wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I have a quick and simple terminology question. What is the name given to
>> the "helper text" that I've seen on some websites alongside textboxes to
>> help you fill them in?
>>
>> They are present at: https://twitter.com/signup and I presume it's just
>> cleaver css possibly with some js thrown in.
>>
>> Secondly, I see twitter does this using tables - which everyone seems to
>> hate for layout. What is a better way of doing this? I assume that you fire
>> some javascript when the textbox is active etc. But how do you get the
>> textbox styled and floating on the right?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> J
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