Hey Paul Thats a thoughtful and detailed answer -- thanks! Since I get some of what you say, half-get some, I hope you will permit me to rephrase your suggestions according to my understanding.
> try using a seperate css and html page, and dont use inline-styling (eg. style=""...) Sorry for the inlines -- just part of my hacks to figure things out. I thought when in total-hack mode, I'd keep css internal though not inline and then move it to another file when more stable/ready. > visually it looks like your div#center is right of the div#left but actually its overlapping > the div#left > remove the height properties form div#left and cus half the text, and youll see what i > mean, it works besause the text is in there and pushing away the div#center > if you were to put some block-level elements (for example) there instead of inline text > the div#center would render over your left container. > so tip: design your templates without texts in them, and when that works, add text > and dictate the behaviour of it (by using float for example) > Vow! Thanks to your firebug tip now I see what you are saying. Ive tried to use the hover trick you refer to but I did not see that it covers margin and border. Speaking of firebug/debugging: Is firebug better or web developer? One thing I would like is some decent documentation -- cant seem to find. Another thing: some help to debug my (mis)understandings of the box-model. Found dom inspector plus but cant make sense of how to use it: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/dom-inspector-dm/ > Use html5 doctype Ok... In view of your other comment (cross-browser compatibility is less to be thought today) I guess I should just jump on that bandwagon! I thought its too hot and bleeding edge for a noob like me! At a high level, I gather you are suggesting bootstrap-framework? Well earlier I had tried 960. And it did not quite work out. Gathered I need to know basics of css and so better to start with the right scale of complexity. So thought I'd start with 'guru-given' css, which worked out a layout and then play with the other aspects (colors,fonts etc) as I work out the mysteries of the box model, the cascade etc -- all the grand stuff I understand in theory but is woeful in practice. I am a programmer, so concepts/syntax is not an issue usually, though chaos is! Anyway those are my thoughts and if you are suggesting some other line I'd be pleased to hear -- -- -- You received this because you are subscribed to the "Design the Web with CSS" at Google groups. To post: css-design@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe: css-design-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Design the Web with CSS" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to css-design+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.