On 6/15/07, Lisa Retief <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> On 6/14/07, Brian Silberbauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anybody using ruby out there?
> >
> Yes, it has become my scripting language of choice for automation and
> other such things.
>
> Have also looked a Rails a bit as a prototyping platform.


Next question: is anybody doing anything with Groovy?

I'm starting to get into it here -- when we moved to an admin/ERP/student
system sitting atop Oracle, I found that JDBC was the quickest route
to talk to Oracle, and have been looking at scripting languages on the
JVM since.  I had been using Python in the past, and Jython worked well
for a lot of the quick/dirty stuff that we need to do...but it didn't have
any clear path to doing web based stuff.

I haven't tried JRuby yet -- my main quandry here was that the draw
for Ruby was rails, which doesn't work on JRuby, and I don't think
the ORM stuff in Rails has support for Oracle, yet (?).

Then I started playing with Groovy, which...seems to be pretty productive
for the same quick-n-dirty stuff and is also easy to use in the JSP/Servlet
environment.  There is also Grails, but I haven't spent much time with it
yet.

My dilemma -- I have some ex mainframe Natural/Adabas developers.
Apparently the success rate at turning these into Java developers is
somewhat low...I was actually thinking of working on a Java-training
-plus-Groovy-on-the-job-by-example strategy of reskilling.  But I also
wonder if I'm not a little bit crazy for thinking this.

-- 
Soren Aalto
Director: ICT
University of Zululand

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