[Only the first part of this message is displayed. The entire message has been turned into a text attachment, which you can retrieve by selecting Download. Once downloaded, open it with a word processor or text editor for reading.] Part 2 of 2 #################### CONTENTS #1.THE MONTAUK PROJECT AND CAMP HERO TODAY: Part 2 Series 5 of 10 Copyright �1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http: //www.cbjd.net/orbit/text/ph.html F. The (Navy's) Boys Are Back In Town <CONTINUATION> G. Illegal Dumping and Intimations of Subterranea H. Correlations Between, Underground Facilities and Undeveloped Surface Areas I. Related/Similar Projects, A West Coast Parallel #2. Himalayan Climber's Abominable Sighting By Alastair Lawson Forward By Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.farshore.force9. co.uk #################### #1.THE MONTAUK PROJECT AND CAMP HERO TODAY: Part 2 Series 5 of 10 Copyright �1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www. cbjd.net/orbit/text/ph.html F. The (Navy's) Boys Are Back In Town <CONTINUATION> While waiting for the return train I and my son took a short walk to the so-called "bottomless" pond immediately north across Industrial Road from Fort Pond. Peter Moon has noted that this small (perhaps 300 feet in diameter) body of water is completely separate from Fort Pond and is reported to be exceptionally deep. Montauk being the remnants of an undersea volcanic mountain, perhaps this is an extinct lava tube filled with water. To the best of my ability I attempted to visually ascertain whether this body of water was notably and unusually deep, and it certainly seemed to be so: the water right at the edges of the pond was very dark. The bottom of the pond was not visible anywhere that I could see; it drops off immediately at the sides except for some boulders, and I was unable to touch the bottom right next to the banks with a stick roughly 10 feet long. This in direct contrast to Fort Pond itself no more that twenty-five feet away, where the sandy, gravelly bottom is clearly visible, and gently slopes away in rather normal pond-like fashion. Subsequently I drove toPart 2 of 2 #################### CONTENTS #1.THE MONTAUK PROJECT AND CAMP HERO TODAY: Part 2 Series 5 of 10 Copyright �1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http: //www.cbjd.net/orbit/text/ph.html F. The (Navy's) Boys Are Back In Town <CONTINUATION> G. Illegal Dumping and Intimations of Subterranea H. Correlations Between, Underground Facilities and Undeveloped Surface Areas I. Related/Similar Projects, A West Coast Parallel #2. Himalayan Climber's Abominable Sighting By Alastair Lawson Forward By Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.farshore.force9. co.uk #################### #1.THE MONTAUK PROJECT AND CAMP HERO TODAY: Part 2 Series 5 of 10 Copyright �1998 John A. Quinn/NewsHawk Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www. cbjd.net/orbit/text/ph.html F. The (Navy's) Boys Are Back In Town <CONTINUATION> While waiting for the return train I and my son took a short walk to the so-called "bottomless" pond immediately north across Industrial Road from Fort Pond. Peter Moon has noted that this small (perhaps 300 feet in diameter) body of water is completely separate from Fort Pond and is reported to be exceptionally deep. Montauk being the remnants of an undersea volcanic mountain, perhaps this is an extinct lava tube filled with water. To the best of my ability I attempted to visually ascertain whether this body of water was notably and unusually deep, and it certainly seemed to be so: the water right at the edges of the pond was very dark. The bottom of the pond was not visible anywhere that I could see; it drops off immediately at the sides except for some boulders, and I was unable to touch the bottom right next to the banks with a stick roughly 10 feet long. This in direct contrast to Fort Pond itself no more that twenty-five feet away, where the sandy, gravelly bottom is clearly visible, and gently slopes away in rather normal pond-like fashion. Subsequently I drove to the old Navy base area on Fort Pond Bay--first to Navy Road, which runs (roughly) east to west along the shore of Fort Pond Bay, and was again struck by the rather inexplicably depressive atmosphere here. Considering the general milieu and economic base of East Hampton Township and indeed of most of the Montauk area, and the generally agreeable way this area is geographically situated above Fort Pond Bay, one would rather expect the "look and feel" of the area to be much more pleasant and appealing. Yet the feeling around there is strongly grim, unfriendly, unappealing, somewhat dilapidated and oppressive overall. Right after turning off Second House Road towards Navy Road I noticed a small landscaping/ topsoil operation with no clearly observable sign or business name, which gave off a strange vibe and seemed to be an especially run-down business, though two young men were working--in robotic slow motion--digging in one of the piles of material . I spotted a sign on a post which read --"Smile. You're under observation by our new 24-hour surveillance camera." (!?!?). It seemed impossible for this run-down dirt-fill operation to have been the object of such severe and continuous intrusions as to warrant 24-hour surveillance! Continuing west on Navy Road directly north of the railroad tracks, one comes to the end of this small neighborhood and approaches a locked gate , beyond which the road continues into the heart of the old Navy base itself. The roller coaster-style hills abound in this area. A definitely unfriendly man exiting through the gate on foot at this time responded monosyllabically to my queries as to whether this was an access to the County park and about which direction exactly one would go. Peter Moon had just informed me that when he visited this area, he crossed over the railroad tracks to the south and soon came across large quantities of trash and waste materials strewn throughout the woods of what is apparently Koppelman County Park. This would without doubt be illegal dumping of a decidedly nasty variety, as these woods are supposed to be for nature preservation and recreation; as well there are a number of residences in relatively close proximity. ILLEGAL DUMPING AND INTIMATIONS OF SUBTERRANEA After leaving the Navy Road area I turned up a road which roughly parallels the railroad tracks and Navy Road to the south (I think an extension of Industrial Road) and found myself behind a large trash- hauling truck from Mickey's of Montauk which continued west on this road past the small neighborhood of a dozen or so homes, whence the truck turned right into a large clearing-- apparently a workyard for Mickey's trash-hauling operation. As it turns out this would be directly south of the area where Peter Moon had seen all the garbage illegally dumped! A couple of workers at this location, as with the workers at the landscaping/topsoil facility back a ways, seemed to be moving in a dazed, almost robotic fashion. (Mind controlled slave workers?) East Hampton Town, of course, has authorized, designated landfill and recycling areas and the woods west of the village of Montauk is not one of these. Without doubt something peculiar, unpleasant and illegal is going on with this secretive dumping of trash, and there is very often a mafia connection to such illegal dumping in the northeastern U.S.-- particularly in New York and New Jersey. The mafia has already been shown to be connected to covert, clandestine government operations in the Long Island area. Could there be a connection between this dumping activity and secret projects? I believe there could be. Underground facilities generate waste just like any others--in fact would likely generate a fair amount of fairly toxic waste due to the nature of much of the clandestine activities. As for the more typical types of garbage generated by the large numbers of people who work and even live in these underground installations, where is this sizable quantity of trash supposed to go? These thousands of people are not considered residents of the Town of East Hampton and cannot be a factor in any demographic data for the town in terms of waste management operations and planning; so, where does all the garbage from the underground go? Could it be it's hauled out by mafia-connected trash-hauling outfits who bring it to the woods near the old Navy base--among other places--for illegal disposal?! Also, consider what the subliminal effect would be upon someone hiking in the area and coming upon lots of rotting trash. Yech! Let's go elsewhere!--a result surely quite desirable to those operating the subterranean facilities. CORRELATIONS BETWEEN UNDERGROUND FACILITIES AND (UNDEVELOPED) SURFACE AREAS Preston Nichols had made a comment to me that while he had been working with the Air Force at Camp Hero on the Hale-Bopp operation, most of the moving around between different locations underground was done with golf carts. He further noted that there were extremely long corridors or tunnels going as far as Block Island offshore from Montauk Point to the east, and extending underground westward to East Hampton. In agreement with this statement by Nichols, and also in agreement with information noted earlier in this report about the presence of unusual hydrants or standpipes and a triple phase power line in the Stony Hill area of East Hampton (known to have had bunkers and undergrounds dating to WW2), there is yet another area of the Town of East Hampton where there is a notable and rather illogical lack of real estate development. This is a surprisingly large area in fact, right between the Stony Hill and Fireplace neighborhoods on the north and East Hampton Village on the south. As this has never even been productive farmland, the pressures for real estate development of these scrub woods would logically be extreme, and yet there is virtually no such development in an area several miles square. There is extensive development further out from the village in all directions, yet not here. This is sort of an island of rather thoroughly preserved woods here surrounded by very high-priced sub-rural homesites. It just seems inexplicable to me, considering the general thrust of real estate development in this region. Also in this general area there is a small antenna farm with some decidedly unusual looking receivers and other equipment. I think this is probably the location of the East Hampton underground and that as with the Shadmoor region of Montauk (a Camp Hero military annex in the Ditch Plains area discussed in Part 4 of my first report), the Montauk Navy base and Camp Hero itself, extensive development is not allowed so as to prevent any kind of interference or conflict with the underground facilities that such development might precipitate. RELATED/SIMILAR PROJECTS A WEST COAST PARALLEL For a number of years I've resided principally in Northern California. I know for a fact that schoolkids from all over Northern California on field trips to the San Francisco area use the "old" military facilities north of the Golden Gate (within the Golden Gate National Recreation Area) for bivouacking overnight, as the federal government (still the owners of the property--though the military facilities are supposedly "closed" or "decommissioned") offers the "accommodations" to school districts all over Northern California, to use for sleepovers during their field trips, etc. Uh-huh... We got the following information from a schoolgirl who was there in that context recently. Although the area where they were spending the night was supposedly not militarily active, a missile mounted on a flatbed trailer, visible behind a chain link fence in the evening, was gone the next morning! One might well wonder what else might have happened during the night at this location where those kids were, given the documented tunnels, etc. In this region. The region in and around the Golden Gate National Recreation Area on both the San Francisco and Marin sides, as well as areas of nearby Sonoma, Napa and Lake counties, are reported to have a number of extensive underground areas--some engineered and constructed since the arrival of white people and some far more ancient. As at Montauk and elsewhere, the covert government has created numerous underground installations at the many military and ex-military sites (and other locations) throughout the general area. Peter Moon has made allusions to the fact that the San Francisco peninsula and the Golden Gate region as a whole is a substantial earth grid power point itself and this factor has been known and utilized by cultic, secret "brotherhoods" directly linked to the worldwide shadow government. There is a SAGE radar site in the Golden Gate area as well. One of the covert government's more "well known" facilities in the general area is Bohemian Grove in Sonoma County's Russian River region. I can attest from personal recollection during the time I resided in nearby Santa Rosa in the 1980s, that over the years a number of local residents have reported on some decidedly peculiar and even vile and very ugly events occurring at this heavily guarded, completely isolated, remote, exclusive "campground" in the woods where many of the "shadow" government's most powerful figures come to "unwind" and "party". These incidents were reported to local law enforcement agencies and made public through the regional news media. Certain of these incidents, regarding the physical/sexual abuse of women by groups of men have been reported on by the local Sonoma County press and substantiated by testimony such as that emailed to me by "Sue Ellen" and reprinted in the section of this report immediately following . She describes her sister's forced involvement in very unpleasant episodes at Bohemian Grove during the time she was employed at the Pentagon. I have recently read other testimony describing truly horrendous incidents at Bohemian Grove and the proclivities of some of it's more "illustrious" members; people like George Bush. Further substantiation of the conditions at Bohemian Grove comes from Cathy O'Brien. While I cannot personally vouch for the accuracy of the following material and though some reasonable doubts and suspicions about both Cathy O'Brien's and husband Mark Philips' credibility have been raised, I am nonetheless including here an excerpt from Ms. O'Brien's The Trance Formation Of America, which describes her own experience at Bohemian Grove. I am doing so because it does jibe substantially with my own personal knowledge of numerous allegations and charges made about Bohemian Grove on the local level, involving the same kinds of unpleasantries and atrocities related by Ms. O'Brien. "I was programmed and equipped to function in all rooms at Bohemian Grove in order to compromise specific government targets according to their personal perversions. "Anything, anytime, anywhere with anyone" was my mode of operation at the Grove. I do not purport to understand the full function of this political cesspool playground as my perception was limited to my own realm of experience. "My perception is that Bohemian Grove serves those ushering in the New World Order through mind control, and consists primarily of the highest Mafia and U.S. Government officials. I do not use the term "highest" loosely, as copious quantities of drugs were consumed there. Project Monarch Mind-Control slaves were routinely abused there to fulfill the primary purpose of the club: purveying perversion. Bohemian Grove is reportedly intended to be used recreationally, providing a supposedly secure environment for politically affluent individuals to "party" without restraint. The only business conducted there pertained to implementing the New World Order, through the proliferation of mind- control atrocities, giving the place an air of "Masonic Secrecy". The only room where business discussions were permitted was the small, dark lounge affectionately and appropriately referred to as the Underground. "...My purpose at the Grove was sexual in nature, and therefore my perceptions were limited to a sex slave's viewpoint. As an effective means of control to ensure undetected proliferation of their perverse indulgences, slaves such as myself were subjected to ritualistic trauma. I knew each breath I took could be my last, as the threat of death lurked in every shadow. Slaves of advancing age or with failing programming were sacrificially murdered "at random" in the wooded grounds of Bohemian Grove, and I felt it was "simply a matter of time until it would be me". Rituals were held at a giant, concrete owl monument on the banks of the Russian River. These occult-like sex rituals stemmed from the scientific belief that mind-controlled slaves required severe trauma to ensure compartmentalization of the memory, and not from any spiritual motivation." --_ 1995 by Cathy O'Brien with Mark Phillips This "owl" monument does indisputably exist, as attested to by many other accounts which tell also of similar grotesque, terrifying, perverted and even deadly horrors at the outwardly idyllic compound. I've been in contact with a woman in Sonoma County who gave me a good bit of information on underground facilities in the Bay Area, including Hamilton AFB in Marin, which--surprise--has supposedly been closed in the mid-1980s but in fact is positively NOT closed. (The AF was still answering the phone as of a few years ago.) There is a foster care facility directly adjacent to the base property, and the FBI is on the board of directors for this "home". It's virtually guaranteed that there have been ties to the Presidio Monarch Project operation at San Francisco's Presidio Army base. At the Child Development Center's day care facility on the base several hundred children were subjected to psychosexual mind control programming by Army Colonel Michael Aquino, an intelligence officer who also worked for the CIA and other intelligence agencies. Additionally Aquino was head honcho of the "Temple of Set", a Church of Satan offshoot based in San Francisco which provided both the seemingly requisite conceptual cult underpinning for the Presidio's kiddie mind control operations. In further exchanges she told of growing up in the Santa Rosa area; her dad was a dabbler in the OTO (Crowley) and similar mystical stuff. In the 1960s or 70s she happened to meet a fellow who was the Civil Defense coordinator for the Santa Rosa area in the 1950s. He told her that there was a substantial underground facility (which I have heard mentioned elsewhere) beneath an AT&T building in downtown Santa Rosa; further discussions revealed that this facility stretched for several miles to a military airfield. Part of this installation would now be directly beneath the Santa Rosa Mall, a major hangout for kids, and probably several schools, residential, industrial and office districts. Back then, Ms. Gulson was not really able to plug this kind of info into any larger scenario. Later she became very interested in mind control activities by the government, especially involving children. As in many other regions of the Unites States there is no shortage of clandestine, bizarre government operations throughout this area-- one of which is an underground facility/base constructed in 1992, about 15 miles. S.E. of Santa Rosa, near the boundary with Napa County. I mentioned this information to my acquaintance, Judy Gulson, and she told me that she already knew of the facility. Regarding this subterranean base: The Napa Sentinel thoroughly investigated the secretive goings-on in the mountains between Napa and Sonoma County. Their exhaustive research, involving many calls to Washington D.C. as well as to two local Air Force facilities, determined that, on the record at least, this was a classified operation (according to Travis AFB and Hamilton AFB (in nearby Marin County) to construct an underground facility to be staffed and operated primarily but by no means only by FEMA! Many black unmarked choppers were seen in association with both the construction and subsequent operation of this facility. A large microwave transmitter there is aimed at Santa Rosa. On paper, and sinister enough in its own right if one takes onto account FEMA's secret charter and agenda, this facility is ostensibly part of the "continuity of government (in chaos)" system of numerous, bomb/radiation-safe underground installations nationwide; a system supposedly designed to ensure the maintenance of law, order and government during a time of national emergency, social/civil upheaval, extreme natural disaster (perhaps induced by HAARP!), or other situation which causes a definite collapse to some degree of the federal government; FEMA's operating charter also call for the reins (or is that "reigns") of the federal government and virtually all its powers being passed into FEMA's control if deemed necessary. However I personally think it's very likely that this new underground base near Santa Rosa is actually more than a FEMA hangout. A weird point in all this, which Ms. Gulson and I both noted, is that Hamilton Air Force Base, contacted by The Napa Sentinel during its investigation, was supposedly been closed a number of years ago; in fact at one point Marin County was supposed to acquire the property for use as some kind of park (sound familiar?). The deal never finalized, and most people think the installation is closed and mothballed. Guess what -- it's not! It is in some level of operation, staffed by at least some AF personnel. Another very interesting point--immediately adjacent to this base is a privately-run foster home called St.. Vincent's Home for Boys, on the board of which is the FBI! Oh really! I imagine other unlisted members of the board of directors are the NSA and CIA. As seems to happen so often in this whole business, there is a wellknown writer on mind control operations who according to some, is himself actually tied to the some agencies and operations he has written about; a man who has some strange connections, including to the above-mentioned foster care home. The following comes from Ms. Judy Gulson in northern California. "The whole subject of Walter Bowart is really up for grabs and conjecture. "A man in Petaluma has a web site called THE PAGE. His name is Walter Radtke--aka Walter Alter. Recently, I was in email contact with a woman named Kathleen Sullivan, an MK-ULTRA survivor. I was doing some research on mind control and somehow connected up with her. Kathleen was gearing up for this conference in Atlanta and was emailing all sorts of stuff. I happened to mention something about the Alter/Radtke Web Site and the information there. She became hysterical and claimed that Bowart is Radtke/Alter. "Now, I have been in touch with Radtke/Alter.....never mentioned anything about Kathleen Sullivan. Out of the blue, he emails me saying that someone was accusing him of being Walter Bowart. He says, "Who's Walter Bowart?" I became uneasy and answered, "With all of the information you have at your site, you surely must know of Walter Bowart !!!" "I have never spoken with this man in person. I know where Walter Radtke lives; he is in the phone book. This past weekend I was in Petaluma and drove by his house. Kathleen said that he would be living in a cul de sac. The reasons for that are security, she says. Sure enough, he does live in a cul de sac. "In addition, after further research, I found that a corporation owns the house. Walter Radtke/Alter tells me that he works at St. Vincent's Home....right next door to ("decommissioned"!) Hamilton AFB.....and the FBI is on the board of the Home. The Home is privately held. There is much strangeness.....not the least of whom is Kathleen herself." --_ Judy Gulson #################### #2. Himalayan Climber's Abominable Sighting By Alastair Lawson Forward By Gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.farshore.force9. co.uk The yeti of the Himalayas, like the Loch Ness monster of Scotland, is a creature that over the years has had much publicity. Debate rages as to whether the low profile of the two creatures stems from shyness or because they are both products of science fiction. Most sightings of the yeti, also known as the abominable snowman, are roughly the same, an ape-like creature around the same size as a grown man. Last week an American climber, Craig Calonica, on Mount Everest became the latest person to witness this most elusive of creatures. Was altitude sickness behind sighting ? He said that he had seen a pair of yetis while coming down the mountain on its Chinese side. Both had thick, shiny black fur, he said, and walked upright. The alleged sighting has re-triggered the debate over the existence of the yeti, a creature that is revered and feared by many people in the Nepalese Himalayas. The closest most people in the West have probably come to seeing a yeti is a blurred photograph of an ape-like creature running around in the mountains. Most of these photos have subsequently been exposed as fakes. Yet if Mr Calonica is to be believed, the truth can sometimes be stranger than fiction. As he descended Mount Everest, he said that one of the creatures was the height of a man. "Around 6,000 metres over to my right I noticed some black arms or wings ... ripping and pulling at something," he said. " I kept watching it and I got about thirty metres away and up stood this creature that stood erect. "It walked like a human, except that it had thick black fur, was about six feet tall and hunched over his shoulders (with) very long arms and extremely large hands. "And just shortly afterwards - 15, 20 seconds later - the second one jumped up except it wasn't holding anything and it was noticeably smaller. According to the Nepalese conservationist Karna Sackyar, Mr Calonica's sighting is almost impossible to prove, because 90% of the Himalayas above 14,000ft still have not been properly explored. "I have travelled a lot in my country and I have never seen a Yeti myself so I do not know whether his claim is genuine or not," he said. "But I strongly believe that taking into consideration the vastness of the Himalayan region, I just cannot say that there is no Yeti in our country." Toby Murcott, the BBC's science analyst, said that while it is most unlikely that yetis exist, Mr Calonica's sighting should not be dismissed out of hand. "I don't think the claim is far fetched," he said. "I think that he genuinely believes that he saw two yeti-like creatures in the Himalayas. "There have been many, many claims like this. What you have to be careful about is what people are actually seeing. "Did he really see two yetis or did he see perhaps two bears? Was he for example suffering from altitude sickness and hallucinating? "Its always very difficult in a one-off situation like this to prove anything." The scientific jury may be out, but Mr Calonica does have his own theories on what he saw. "Many people call them different things. I kind of have a feeling they are an ancestor of ours," he said. #################### -- Louise A. Lowry "World Of The Strange" Weekly Free Newsletter ***Come & Link With Us*** WOTS-Web Site: http://www.jb-graphics.com/thestrange Check Out Our Discussion List Called PARA-DISCUSS http://www.jb-graphics.com/thestrange/primer.htm http://www.tje.net/services/maillists/para-discuss.htm Plus Don't Forget our Message Board!!! 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