-Caveat Lector-
> On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Hawk wrote:
> >> Still voicing OPINION without FACTS, are we?
> >
> >Read the words, June... I believe them to be factual.... Documents from the era
>indicate
> that such was the situation,
>
> Documents which you fail to give titles for, let alone quote...
----Yes please state what documents you are talking about.
> As a matter of FACT, Unitarianism is NOT prevalant here in the
> Northeast...Unitarianism isn't even Christianity...
-----But most of our leaders were Unitarianism...well according to one of my history
profs.
> ---The regions do have different types of religion as I first pointed out...the
>South is
> more fundamentalist......Baptist...Bible Churches...the Northern Churches more
> structured...and maybe more rigid...
----"The north was all into "social engineering" or "solving the problems of the poor"
etc
much like the Methodist Church today... it was more "man-centered" rather than bible
centered
or Christ-centered"
-----I know where I live there are mainly the main protestant and Catholic
Churches..not many
Bible or Baptist, and they seem to be quite prevalent done south..do your homework you
can
find this out on your own.
>
> If I were to say that the opinions of Marx influenced the northeast, or
> that Napoleon's tactics influenced the Confederacy, it would not be the
> same as saying the North was Communist and the South was French. OK?
>
> Which means you admit that your statement is meaninless drivel...
===Reread his statement..perfectly logical to me....he is simply trying to say
something can
be influenced by something...but that does not mean it is what it is influenced by.
Okay...example ...Okay..I have been influenced by my parents beliefs, but my parents
beliefs
and mine are not the same. One can be influenced positively or negatively by
something/someone but that doesn't mean you are what you are influenced by.
----You might have to reread this statement too....
<G> maybe even a couple of times
<G>
> Jerry praises you for your 'documentation', but yet I've never seen you
> provide one iota of documentation...and in fact your private opinions
> posted as 'fact' have been roundly refuted by actual facts time and time
> again...
>
> >If so, say what's on your mind.
>
> I already have, but I'll repeat it: You are an idiot who posts his
> personal opinion and prejudices as if they were a matter of fact, without
> providing a shred of documentation;
-----Whoa !!! You can call names...ot to be careful when you do that, you can say
something
like I think you are an idiot, without getting into trouble but if you are saying it
is a
fact that someone is an idiot ...especially in public...you better be able to prove
it...or
you may end up in court. One must deal with the facts, and you are stating/declaring
to this
list that this individual, Hawk is an idiot, then I must ask you for your proof in you
saying that he is. How do you support this premise ? Do you have some documentation
regarding this statement that we should be made aware of, if so what is this
documentation
and where can it be found ?
---I think the person who wrote that above is dealing with the way that person feels,
and
because of this has resorted to name calling..which I consider to be offensive to me
...I
have to read this garbage. Let us deal with the facts and not opinions of
others...that is
what you have requested, isn't it ?
> and when you're obvious fallacies are pointed out by documented facts, you turn
>around and
> start calling those who provide FACTS to counter your prejudices any variety of
>names.
----Yeah...like you just did..Just went to the archives and I saw the reply in which
this
Hawk guy was kicked off...he was called names, like you are calling him now, and he
defended
himself.
----It is you who is calling names to cloud up the facts...I want to learn here...and
I want
to listen but not to name calling and juvenile behavior like this.
>
> If DOCUMENTED FACTS are considered 'beligerant' by you, so be it...
----Huh ??? I have seen no documented facts in these posts by you...name your sources,
page number and such.
> >and I guarantee you, I am meaner than you are,
>
> Don't bet on it...
>
----Knock it off....I do not like to get on the computer...and first thing..bump into
what I
believe to be juvenile posts knocking one another....maybe both of you need a time out.
>
> >So how 'bout you just lighten up a little bit, and be respectful...
>
----Wait ...maybe this person is trying to be respectful...
>
> Again, if pointing out that you are posting personal opinion and
> prejudice as if they were 'facts' is considered 'disrespectful', so be
> it...I will NOT cease to point out your obvious errors...
----Ma'am I consider you to be disrespectful to all of us on this list after reading
your
post thoroughly. I do not want a post like this taking up room in my mailbox. so if
you
please write down your facts instead of posting personal opinion, I would be more than
appreciative. In this post you did not think you let your emotions take over...if you
find
yourself doing this again....write it --read it...edit it...or don't send it.
> I personally feel your agenda is to disrupt this list in any manner that
> you can, and that you're just looking for an excuse to start up again.
>
-----and your not...this may be a Monday...and they are usually the pits...but you
have not
helped it to be much better after reading your post...give me facts...I want to learn
from
you.
I personally feel your agenda is to disrupt this list in any manner that
you can, and that you're just looking for an excuse to start up again.
----Whatever, yep that is right this is a conspiracy list, so some people might see one
behind every corner...oh well.
>
> Carlene
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