-Caveat Lector-
"M. A. Johnson" wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Someone wrote:
> May I suggest that all who are disaffected by Socialism on the
> one hand, and "vulture" (Pat Buchanan's phrase) or "loan shark"
> capitalism (which we have in the US now)
>
> <snip>
>
> MJ:
> May I recommend an education in terminology before one attempts
> to malign 'a rose by ANOTHER name'?
>
> America has NOT a capitalist economy but a MIXED economy
> with Government controls, regulations and planning to its
> detriment.
>
> nurev wrote:
> Typical Libertarian bullshit. America has a slightly mixed
> economy which is firmly in the hands of Capitalists. The very
> worst of both possibilities.
>
> It's the Capitalist Elites who enjoy the fruits of Socialism
> by owning the government. And it's the poor and working class
> who enjoy the bitter leftovers of capitalism.
>
> MJ:
> Your blatant contradiction of yourself aside ...
>
> Capitalism requires a SEPARATION of the economy and the
> state -- hardly a reality within the US.
This is the stupidest statement I've yet seen on the subject. I don't
know what planet you live on, but on Earth, Capitalism can not exist
without the state, and MUST control the state or die. Show me even ONE
case where capitalism thrives independent of the state. EVEN ONE!!!
Capitalism is an inherently unstable and self destructive economic
system
that REQUIRES the state to pull Capitalists' chestnuts out of the fire
time and time again. Capitalists REQUIRE the state to protect their
interests
from competition. BUT WHO PROTECTS THE REST OF US FROM CAPITALISM? Not
the state because the state is run by the very people we need the
protection
from.
I don't know what fantasy you live in, but pull your head out of
wherever
you've placed it and LOOK AROUND YOU.
I want to control the state democratically and I don't want
businessmen to
run this society surreptitiously any longer. More people feel like I
do due
to the antics of people you seem to admire. In the end, it will go our
way
because there are more of us than there are of you. If you don't like
that,
you may leave. I suggest you go to Russia where your kind of economic
philosophy is practiced.
Take a sweater.
Joshua2
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