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Subject: Two Clinton Witnesses Part Of Waco Cover-Up
   Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:41:56 -0500
   From: Carol Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Add to Address Book
     To: Al Gore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
         Bill Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
         Hillary Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

TWO CLINTON WITNESSES PART OF WACO COVER-UP

According to press reports, the White House has
chosen Ronald K. Noble and Edward S.G.
Dennis, Jr. to participate in the Wednesday,
December 9th morning panel on  "Prosecutorial
Standards for Obstruction of Justice and Perjury."
It can hardly be a coincidence that these two
men oversaw the Treasury and Justice Department
reports on the BATF and FBI actions against
the Branch Davidians outside of Waco Texas in
1993 that led to the deaths of 82 civilians and
four federal agents.  Is Clinton telling Congress
that it let these agents get away with mass
murder-so it can surely let him get away with a
little lying under oath?  Of course, Clinton himself
was deeply involved in promoting prosecutorial
conduct against the Davidian defendants and
the cover-up of federal agents' crimes against
the Davidians.

Ronald Noble was described as "associate professor
of law at New York University Law School
and former undersecretary of the Treasury for
enforcement."  On February 26, 1998 the not-yet-
confirmed Noble participated in the decision to
allow BATF agents to attack Davidians two days
later.  In late April, 1993 Treasury Secretary Lloyd
Bentsen selected Noble to head the Treasury
Department investigation, an investigation which
ignored evidence of serious BATF crimes,
including lying to the military and shooting from
helicopters that killed four Davidians.  The
results of his "investigation" are contained in
the September, 1993 "Report of the Department of
the Treasury on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
and Firearms Investigation of Vernon Wayne
Howell also known as David Koresh."

Edward S.G. Dennis, Jr., was described as
"Partner with Morgan, Lewis & Bockius in
Philadelphia and co-chairman of the Corporate
Investigations and Criminal Defense Practice
Group."  The Justice Department appointed
Dennis, himself a former head of the Justice
Department's Criminal Division to be the chief
reviewer of the government's procedures, decisions
and actions in Waco.  Dennis, whose investigations
of the Philadelphia police department's
bombing of the MOVE group and of Banca
Lavoro have bee criticized by the press, did not
complain when the Justice Department review
team withheld damaging information from the
Justice Department's panel of ten outside experts
and even from its chief overseer, including
missing physical evidence, withheld audio and
video tapes, letters, memorandum, etc.  The results
of his "investigation" are contained in his October,
1993 "Evaluation of the Handling of the
Branch Davidian Stand-off in Waco, Texas,"
an evaluation of the larger Justice Department to the
Attorney General.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Author, The Davidian Massacre
http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/davidian-massacre.html
Box 65518
Washington, DC 20035
202-635-3739
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[APFN NOTE] Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen (Former longtime Senator form
Texas) - During the Waco hearings had to take the "OATH of TESTIMONY" before
the committee after a heated discussion. The first video about Waco provided
by Dr. Gregg Sali & Ken Fawcett had a researcher providing documented proof
that the Secretary of the Treasury did not take the "OATH OF OFFICE" to the
United States of America. He takes an "Oath of Officer" to the "International
Monetary Fund" (IMF). This researcher further states that all Treasury
takes that Oath. This would include the BATF and the IRS. Thousands of people
seen that video. I have not seen any follow-up to the fact or fiction to the
above. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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      Subject: "Know Your Customer" (Larry Becraft)

      Message:  208.147.127.98 writes: December 8, 1998 --
      "Know Your Customer"

      From: Larry Becraft

      Dear Friends,

      Both Scott McDonald at the "Fight the Fingerprint" webpage and the
      principals at The Wallace Institute have been awaiting the
      publication in the Federal Register of several govt agencies "Know Your
      Customer" regulations, which promise bank spying on customers. When those
      regs came out yesterday morning, I downloaded them and proceeded to draft
      letters to object to them. My first letter was to the FDIC and Scott posted
      that letter to his page last night. Today, I completed my letter to the
      "Fed" Reserve Board and it was just posted moments ago.

      Scott's page can be accessed thru:
      http://www.networkusa.org/index.shtml

      Then click on the: "Fight the Fingerprint" Web Site!
      http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint.shtml

      Devvy Kidd plans possibly by Wed. morn to have The Wallace
      Institute letter posted to her page which is accessed thru:
      http://www.devvy.com/index.html

      I request that everyone examine these letters and use them as patterns for
      your own letters of objection. If you get very detailed, please follow my
      letters to each agency. The FDIC claims an alleged basis for its regs based
      on certain statutes, and the Fed claims others as support for its own.
      Consequently, I had to examine them all. Of course, I contend that no
      statute anywhere supports the KYC regs, but if you plan to cite statutes,
      please be accurate and use my letters as a pattern.

      I would also like to note that many, like me, have no love for the Fed.
      While I stayed specifically on point with my objections to the regs, I
      had to bite my tongue to keep from going off on other issues. But if you
      have some complaint against the Fed, don't let me stand in your way: VENT
      STEAM. This is an opportunity to communicate with the Fed, which must read
      your letter and ultimately (if it is honest, HAHAHA) respond when it acts on
      the regs. I do hope that if massive numbers write letters, we can stop the
      regs just like we did with the DoT's National ID regs.

      May the voice of the American people be heard.

      Larry Becraft

      Larry Becraft

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 (No subject) Wednesday, 09-Dec-98 04:46:28

      Message: 208.147.127.26 writes:

      Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:51:27 +1100 (EST)
      From: Pam Stiltjes
      Subject:
      Fwd: Impeachment

      Well, it doesn't hurt to keep trying, does it?

      ---Pam Stiltjes wrote:
      >
      > Attn: "Republican Impeachment Railroad"
      >
      > Please proceed full steam ahead with the impeachment
      > of our current President. He has shamed our nation
      > beyond repair and deserves to be in jail as others
      > who have committed perjury are. This is not about
      > politics as the Dems seem to think, as you gentlemen
      > know. It is about breaking the law and remember, each
      > of us must abide by the rule of law, no exceptions!!
      >
      > This is the fourth e-mail I've sent, others to single
      > members of your judiciary committee. Please, it's so
      > simple, get him out of office before no nation in the
      > world respects "we the people" of the United States of
      > America and our Republic is forever compromised!!
      >
      > Thank you,
      > Pam Stiltjes
      > Caliente, NV 89008
      > 702-726-3285
      >
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      Subject:  "I will rule through exective order"
      Wednesday, 09-Dec-98 04:06:04

      Message:  208.147.127.26 writes:

      Real-To: "mystic"

      The Rebel Yell

      Check it out:=(
      http://www.tricor.net/~myfirst/ClintonEO.htm
      "I will rule through exective order"

      "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear
      arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
      government."
      FROM THE THOMAS JEFFERSON PAPERS

      POSTED BY: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

      PLEASE FORWARD THE ABOVE URL TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS

      [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 Chat on mIRC Re: New World Order/Global Governance
 Tuesday, 08-Dec-98 04:47:27

      Message: 209.161.10.115 writes:

      Join us on mIRC dalnet chat and get information on the new world
      order. We meet every Sunday at 9pm EST (7pm MST) in the #New_World_Order
      channel. Learn about NWO, global governance, and what your government is
      up to. All welcome!
      Also, Christian fellowship, but anyone is welcome to join us. Not
      familiar with the program? (mIRC) Go to
      http://www.cyberhighway.net/hushj/meetings.html
      for info on downloading the program and setting it up....or contact
      me on ICQ 2434177, or Hush 2823670 if you need more info or help.
      God Bless!

      Jan (KittKatt)
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 Sunday, 06-Dec-98 21:59:05

      Message:
      209.212.192.49 writes:

      News on socialists in our House of Representatives.
      You can go to to get information on socialists in our
      House of Representatives.
      http://www.dsausa.org

      When there, click on "organization" and read about the DSA,
      especially the first two sentences!

      Then, go "back" to homepage. When there, click on "progressive
      challenge".

      When there, click on "Progressive Caucus Members". Here, you will
      find a list of 58 mambers of the House of Representatives who are
      members of the "Congrressional Progressive Caucus" which is an entity
      affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America.

      The CPC Executive Chair is held by Bernard Sanders, VT-at large. Mr.
      Sanders has been said to be the only openly socialist Representative
      in our House.

      There are 57 other members of the CPC, and several of them you will
      recognize as some of the chief apologists for the President. Henry
      Waxman, John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Barney Frank, David Bonior, Jerrold
      Nadler, Chaka Fattah, et al.

      Would think they would be up front on their CPC membership before
      apologizing for the President?

      Check it out.

      Keep the Faith, Paul
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