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>Lee Markland wrote:
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>> Lloyd Miller wrote:
>
>> >Of course, this means nothing as the previous owners of the Bank of
England
>> >own the government.  Remember, the Rothschilds, contrary to popular
myth,
>> >are Court Jews, agents of the Monarchy and subservient to it. The
>
>> >Rothschilds were rewarded with a position on the prestigious "Acceptance
>> >Committee" of the Bank of England after the Napoleonic Wars.  The Royal
>> >Family and their relatives and allies owned the Bank of England.
Remember a
>> >point seldom mentioned, investment bankers act as agents for the super
>> >rich....they are not the "Rich", themselves.
>>
>> Poor Rothschilds, victims and pawns, not the "Rich" themselves - LOL,
just
>> the opposite is true, through Rothschild Inc, in Paris, they provide seed
>> money to aspiring family members to buy up companies and corporations
>> throughout the world. Duly reported in Business Week, circa 1982 -1983,
>> someone with access to a public library and the Guide to Periodicals
should
>> be able to run down the article.

Lloyd Responds:  The Rothschilds buy-up comapnies for their sponsors and
investors...mainly, the world's Royalty as they have for several Centuries
now.  By no means poor, but not the ultimate string pullers.  Investment
bankers are middlemen.  The Rothschilds, Warburg, and other Court Jews are
not admirable.  They serve the Ruling Class Powerful in the exploitation and
victimization of the ruled class.

>> They own Dutch Royal Shell, British Petroleum, Lazard Freres in Paris.

Lloyd Responds:  No, Royal Dutch Shell is owned primarily by the House of
Orange.  The Rothschilds are _their_ bankers.  British Petrol was owned by
the British Government 'till privatised by Thatcher, I believe.  The
Rothschilds do own their banking houses, of course.  However, the
Rothschilds left France with great fanfare some years ago when the
Socialists took over.

>On page 2 of Post-Industrial Society by Peter Drucker can be found the
>statement that "by 1815, the Rothchild's had become the great power,
>overshadowing kings and princes."  Given the available evidence on the
>Rothschilds, along with the Schiff's, Warburgs, Loebs and so on, it would
>seem there is merit to Drucker's view.

Lloyd Responds:  Of course, this is the common view.  All around the world
the real rulers of this world, primarily the Dynasties founded by Viking
conquerors use Jews as front men and scapegoats.

>One also has to ask if the Monarchy would choose
>to be in the glare of public scutiny if it were the true power.

The best place to hide is right out in the open...they work on creating the
atmosphere of misinterpretation through the fraud of democracy.  They know
they cannot hide, but they can induce misinterpretation.

>I am aware
>of other elements, such as the Weft?

Welfs, I believe, from whom descend the British Monarchs and West German
Princes from which they sprang.

>family, but fail to see how they
>could control the so-called Court Jews (Zionists).

You control what you create!

With a very few exceptions, the Court Jews opposed Zionism until Lord
Balfour gave them the green light with the Balfour declaration, a clever
plot to gain uniform Jewish support for WWI and use the Jews as an Imperial
sword point in the Middle East.  Lord Balfour was a Cecil....descending from
the Normans (Vikings).

>The inverse
>case, often stated, that financial assistance to a Monarch's rivals
>provides great leverage for a small rich clique, seems to be the more
>believable one.
>
>Then there is the groundbreaking allegations by the highest elements
>of the Russian government about Zionist responsibility for their sad
>state of affairs.

Lloyd Responds:  Jews as agents of the Anglo-American Establishment no doubt
helped and are helping bring down Russia!   The Brits did these peviously
with Anarchists and Communists to prevent Russia from becoming a real
independent capitalist power and therefore a real threat to AngloAmerican
rule.

>Another issue to keep in mind here is Rothchild's
>ownership
>share of BIS, which started operations as a collection point for the
vengeful
>Treaty of Versaille reparations and is now the Bank of Banks.

The BIS was set-up as a Central Bank of Central Banks, by Central Banks.
The Bank of England and other Central Banks had/have shares, not the
Rothschilds themselves.  J. P. Morgan held shares though to represent the US
in spite of Congress refusing to be involved.

>Even assuming all the so-called quotes, such as Amstel Rothchild's "I care
>not who sits on Englands throne...." are false, how can such things
>as the financing of the Russian Revolution be explained?

Lloyd Responds:  Anglo-American covert policy was to saddle Russia with
unproductive communism to prevent it from becoming a real geopolitical
threat.  Kuhn-Loeb, the Rothschilds, JP Morgan, etc. "made it so" at the
behest of their Royal Masters.

BTW The current
>state of Russia, and it's communist history, once again show that the
>ends cannot justify the means because everything is process.  Excessively
>top down, exclusionary social engineering fails for very good reasons.
>I wonder
>if this lesson will finally be learned by the so-called wise ones before
>its too late.
>
>Regards
>Dan Parker

>Dan: 18% of the shares of the Bank for International Settlements are
>privately held.
>Instead of paper certificates, each share is represented by a serially
>numbered gold franc (not a French franc, but a B.I.S. franc).

Lloyd Responds:  Morgan's shares held for the US, I believe.

>There seems to be a concerted effort to turn reality on its head.

>William of Orange, may have had money, but it was from financing and loans.

Lloyd Responds:  Yes, many Royals were usurers behind the front of their
Court Jews.  The House of Orange also did quite well in the slave trade and
slave plantations in Brazil, etc. etc.

>Ludwig of Hesse sold his conscripted peasants to King George as cannon
>fodder in the American Revolution, to get money to pay back loans he had
>made to Amschel Meyer Rothschild.

Lloyd Responds:  The above is a fantasy wholesaled by Ezra Pound, Mullins,
and Commander Carr in _Pawns in the Game_

Lloyd Continues:  The Rothschilds were still relatively poor pawn brokers
and money changers during the American Revolution.  Amschell was on hands
and knees finding rare coins for the Elector of Hesse's collection to
ingratiate himself.  The Elector was already the richest man in the world
from his loan sharking and selling of his soldiers as slave soldiers.
Amschel was struggling to be considered for the Elector's business,
competing with well established and much richer Court Jews in the Elector's
covey.

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