-Caveat Lector-

Johnson's boring and repetitious libertarian-fascist chant reminds me of
Laskin's comment on squeejee kids below. "Let them eat cake" was more
intelligent than what we get from morons like that.
FWP.

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:18:29 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: [Future-Cities] Re: Housing Crisis, Y2K, Holy Body Tattoo Jan. 6 on Studio BC 
(fwd)

From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Dear Mayor Owen: During yesterday's Council meeting on housing and
homelessness you mentioned that you had spoken to two "squeejee kids" now
working here and formerly from Toronto. Mayor Laskin was on tv a couple
of months ago and he too reported on his talk with squeejee kids. Laskin
said that (1) they were lazy-didn't want to work; (2) they "wanted to
start at the top". Seeing someone working hard at car washing it is
amazing that anyone could make such statements. They are simply untrue do
you not agree?
   Every Vancouver Councillor who spoke commented explicitly or
implicitly that this problem requires co-ordinated action at all levels.
I suggest also looking at INTERNATIONAL models for solutions. Please go
to http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex and link to the Mondragon, Spain
project. This worker owned conglomerate with 30,000 employee-shareholders
even has its own university. Canada's annual population increase of
300,000 would populate three Mondragons. I have posted previously that
the next time ELP pickets the Fraser Institute, Dr. Walker should
surprise them and invite them in to sit at the Board Room table and
discuss the formation of a Mondragon-like company. If Mayor Laskin were
to do that he would find out fast who the lazy bums are (they do exist)
and who the workers are.
Sincerely-FWP.

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:09:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: [Future-Cities] Re: Housing Crisis, Y2K, Holy Body Tattoo Jan. 6 on Studio BC

From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I don't know if you want to use this list as an announcement list only or
whether you want some discussion. Let me know. In the event that you want
some discussion let me say that affordable housing depends on having (1)
affordable land; (2) an affordable "housing system" for home construction.
Affordable land means "decanting" population to new urban centres. In BC
you can buy land in the interior and north for a few hundred dollars/acre.
An affordable housing system is a method of construction which uses
reasonably priced components and allows the lay home builder to assemble
the home using simple tools and following plain language instructions. In
other words this is the "home kit" approach. There are many ways to
design such home kits but I am pleased with what four steel experts have
told me. They are cc'd. As a result of what they have told me I have put
together a proposal for course which I would teach (at VVC or BCIT or ?)
to help the lay home builder to use such a kit. I am now trying to
arrange the purchase of a demo/instructional kit for a 20 ft. x 30 ft.
cottage from Earth-Sense Steel. It would be owned by the college and it
would be designed so that it can be assembled and disassembled many times
for many teachings of the course. However we need a grant so I am asking
in this email if Jenny Kwan's Muncipal Affairs Ministry or any of the
guests on your show tomorrow can direct me to a source of funding.
Sincerely-FWP.

PS-Providing employment at remote sites where land is affordable is
another matter but outside the scope of the present discussion. See
http://www.alternatives.com/fc and http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex

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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Madelaine Halls wrote:

> STUDIO BC
> WEDNESDAY JANUARY 6, 1999
> LIVE, 8 PM on KNOWLEDGE NETWORK
>
> CAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR SOLVE BC's HOUSING CRISIS?
> DEBATE
> Housing is one of the basic necessities -- and in BC, the challenge of
> finding affordable housing has never been greater.  In key cities like
> Vancouver and Victoria, as well as emerging smaller centres like Nelson,
> there is a serious shortage of rental units, both in the private and
> social housing sectors.  High-priced housing can keep people from coming
> to BC -- and is enough to prompt them to leave for a more affordable
> province.
> The debate:  Can the private sector solve BC's housing crisis?
> Panelists: Judy Gayton, Non-Profit Housing Consultant; Jim O'Dea, Chair,
> Board of Commissioners, BC Housing; David Richardson, Residential Realtor,
> Remax; and
> Ward McAllister, Vice-President, Urban Development Institute.
>
> AND...
>
> WILL THE Y2K PROBLEM AFFECT AVERAGE BRITISH COLUMBIANS?
> DEBATE
> Everyone's talking about the "millennium bug" or Y2K computer problem.
> Some
> people say it's likely to cause major problems like power outages, food
> shortages, bankruptcies and possibly even trigger an economic recession or
> depression.  Others say Y2K won't affect the average person provided
> companies and individuals get busy now to test and solve this fairly
> straightforward computer glitch. This week Studio BC will debate: will the
> Y2K computer problem affect average British Columbians?  Our guests will
> include David Brown, author of "Surviving the Year 2000 Computer Crash",
> Rick Ingrasci, Community Health Professional and Y2K consultant from
> Washington and Graeme Bennett, Associate Editor for The Computer Paper in
> Vancouver.
>
> PLUS..
>
> HOLY BODY TATTOO
> Some people say they're the hottest company in BC dance right now.
> Vancouver's Holy Body Tattoo is putting BC dance on the map in Europe and
> the United States. Their dance has been described as a "poetical
> firestorm" with each performance consisting of a solid hour of extreme
> physical activity. This week on Studio BC, we talk with two of the three
> principal dancers, Dana Gingras and Noam Gagnon about their achievement.
>
> Studio BC debates BC issues Wednesdays at 8 p.m. on Knowledge Network,
> repeating Thursdays at 6 p.m., Fridays at 1 p.m. and Sundays at 11 p.m.
> Studio BC is hosted by George Orr and Viviana Zanocco. Knowledge Network
> is BC's public educational television service. Visit us at: www.knowtv.com.
>
> Contact:      Bernard Motut, Producer/Director                Madelaine Halls, 
>Promotions
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>               (604) 431-3088                          (604) 431-3211
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