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>
> Edward Britton wrote:
>
> > This would be fine, but how would the government "know" whom to protect
> > inasmuch as there is a significant portion of our population with no
> > political voice.
>
> You actually believe this stuff you say? I don't have a "political voice,"
> but
> the cops seem to respond when I've called them.
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Translated: the cops in my area come running for SOME reason, therefore
everyone has some political voice. How far from reason can you get?
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>
> > Therefore this governmental attribute you hold so dear becomes a defense
> > mechanism for the elite.
>
> Let me ask... Are you a student or graduate of Patrice LaMumba University
in
> Moscow?
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An avoidance of the issue in favor of McCarthyism - an attempt at character
assassination, the default of a faulty metaprogram.
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>
> > Hence the present chasm, in this nation, between the have's and the have-
> not's.
>
> And in other nations, there is no such chasm, right? Am I catching on?
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No one said that, did they? Shall we ignore our own problems in favor of
addressing the problems of others?
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>
> > A) How do the mentally impaired fall under your rubric of "reaping the
> > net result of the choices they make"? How do those families--specifically
> > children-- displaced by economic down-turns fall under the rubric of "net
> > result of choice"?
>
> Maybe they fall under the "rubric" of "chance." We all have risks in our
> lives,
> and sometimes things happen to us that we didn't choose... The application
> is the
> same, however... Your bad luck is not my responsibility.
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There seems to be very little for which you ARE responsible.
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>
> > B) It is fair by nature of the fact that the aforementioned gripers reap
> > a disproportionately large benefit from life in this society.
>
> Oh? And I suppose wise men (and women, just to be politically correct) will
> have
> meetings and decide what a "proportional benefit" would be? As a matter of
> fact,
> I think they already do... something called a graduated income tax.
>
> > "Social Darwinism" is hardly an emotive and hardly a term that I coined.
> > It refers to a general belief in the social equivalent of survival of the
> > fittest. Such a doctrine is fine in feudal systems, but once a social
> > system has been formed for the mutual benefit of all (civilization),
such
> > doctrines become antiquated--or would if not revived by those of rightist
> bent.
> > Choose one: feudal system or civilization (representative democracy or
> > otherwise) and be willing to pay the price for your decision.
>
> How about freedom? Has that ceased to be a choice?
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If you value your freedom at any happenstance expense of others, don't be
surprised when they come a knockin'.
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>
> > In this/my case, you are partially correct. I was to blame for not having
> > adequately prepared myself financially (at nineteen, such concepts were
> > sort of abstract :-)). My employer took it from there by downsizing me
> > during the initial stages of Reagan's "trickle-down" economy.
>
> Probl'y the smartest business decision he ever made...
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Like many right-wingers, you love a fight more than is good for you, or us.
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>
> > Forgive me, Michael (actually this serves as partial re-inforcement of my
> > point about the compassionlessness and naivete'of the right), but, again,
> > at nineteen, I was oblivious of the need to prepare for the malevolent
> > economics of an equally malevolent president.
>
> and don't forget your malevolent boss... and his malevolent board of
> directors..
> and perhaps the malevolent bankers who advised him to keep his expenses
less
> than
> his income... Don't leave anyone out of your "victim" diatribe.
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If there are no victims, then there are no perpetrators, right? So why be
concerned with conspiracies at all?
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>
> > This is the key deficiency in the understanding of those of rightist
> > affiliation: a great many people fall prey to circumstances beyond their
> > control, and well outside the realm of choice. One can stretch the
> > philosophy of "blame the victim" only so far before the argument becomes
> > rediculous.
>
> What if we don't "blame anybody," and just let the chips fall where they
may?
> My
> bad luck doesn't constitute a claim on your bank account.
>
> > I am fearful of being run over by a system in which I have no
> representation. I
> > guess it's a matter of choosing who and by what means should I be run
over.
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The chips WILL fall where they will and your lack of caring will work its way
into the equation when someone gives you some of the same medicine. When the
chips fall, who will consider your immense kindness?
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>
>
> That's the only smart thing you've said.... Good Boy!
>
> Hawk
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You have just reinforced the image of your ilk as being arrogant and
conescending. I would have a tough time TRYING to give myself this bad an
image.
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