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Gerald Harp wrote:
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> -Caveat Lector-
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> In a message dated 1/12/99 9:27:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> > MJ:
> > While the conclusion may or may NOT be true [cause], what exactly
> > makes the muder of an individual within a 'protected' group WORSE
> > than the murder of some other individual?
>
> Yes, murder is murder and the US murder statistics stand out like a malignant
> cancer. The extreme right wing hate mongers have so many reason and excuses
> for violence that it is astounding. Bob Grant, Rush, Limbaugh, G. Gordon
> Liddy and others give us more daily. The hate murder is unique in motivation
> because it is not based upon some twisted notion of benefiting oneself. It is
> based upon the absurd notion that certain groups, who do not harm other, are
> intrinsically evil so that one is justified before God and right thinking
> people for killing this person(s). Of course, those who encourage such action
> obviously bear some measure of responsibility. Even if such creatures as Bob
> Grant sincerely believe that they have some special role in helping to
> eliminate homosexuals, i.e. even if they are completely insane, it does not
> exonerate them from their responsibility to meet the natural requirements of
> courtesy, respect, and tolerance for others that living in a democratic civil
> society entails.
>
> > Would any robbery be a 'hate crime' since the perpetrator most
> > certainly 'hates' 'rich people'.
>
> This statement does not make sense.
>
If the perpetrator made some statement before committing the crime
which indicated that he was justifying his action because the person who
he is stealing from is "rich" would it then be understandable to call it
a hate crime? If not, why not? I was once mugged by a couple of guys.
They pretended to be a little drunk and asked me for directions. I tried
to help them out as best I could. One of them very expertly put a knife
to my throat. Then he turned the weapon over to his partner, who held it
to the back of my neck. The leader made several statements indicating
that he thought I was "rich" and had in some way taken advantage of him
and thus owed him. Was this a "hate crime"?
In the case that was mentioned of the two guys who murdered the gay
student, I believe that one was enraged when the gay student made a pass
at him. (Interestingly, one of my friends who was gay told me that
before he "came out" he used to get very incensed at homosexuals and I
can imagine the possibility that this might have been a hidden dynamic
in this occurance. Remember the murder was committed by two guys and one
female. Think about it). So, you have a guy who get enraged and then
gets his buddy to join him in this emotion. The girl tags along. Is this
a "hate crime"? Did they target this guy because he was gay or because
he did something "gay" which blew this guy's mind?
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