Brian, Thanks for the following article. Still, I can't find the Smoking Gun on the connection between Klinton and Flynt, and suspect that the connection may not be conspiratorial but mutual interests that are not secretive at all. Compare that to the Peckergate scandal, where Matt Drudge clearly has been fed his "scoop" from higher up operatives that were using him as a tool. Flynt is a tool for nobody but himself (as anyone who does business with him will certainly attest.) Further, if there is a Vast Left Wing Conspiracy, who is Mr. Big? Larry Flynt? James Carville? These guys are chump change compared to Richard Mellon Scaife. As the saying goes, "Show me the money." A sidenote that is quite relevant: I have spoken to Flynt's people at Hustler over the million dollar offer, as I currently have some rather juicy goods on a GOP senator sex scandal. My information was received before the Flynt offer (as well as before Peckergate shot it's wad this summer) and thus was entirely independent of this. I suspect that this is how the Flynt operation is going: not from the top down (which is how the VRWC has worked, where Scaife supplies the funds, Tripp-Goldberg get the ammo, and Drudge spurts out the results) but the bottom up (individuals, both disgusted by the cynical hypocricy of the Peckergate Circus and/or lured by shameless greed, tell all to Flynt, who then uses it to publicize Hustler and thus secondarily defend Slick Willie.) A little more info: Flynt, as you've detailed in Con Nation, has a history of hell-raising against the establishment (being a chief promoter of conspiracy investigation when it wasn't hip), which probably has more to do with his persecution by Falwell, S&L swindler Charles Keating, and the assassination attempt against him that left him paralyzed (the man who shot him also shot at Vernon Jordan) than his promotion of ultra-pink beavers. Considering the harassment he's received from the business establishment and far right for his mag, I can sympathize with Flynt's decision on who he is in bed with politically. Further, as you point out, Carville's Polling/PR Firm has been burglarized twice in a week. Today, a bogus news story (uncovered as bogus by Clay Douglas of The Free American) was forwarded by some on the internet - including yourself in honest error - accusing Carville of domestic violence, firing a pistol and brandishing a knife during a fight with his wife. Clearly, both sides in this battle are up to Nixonian Watergate shenanigans (as I'm sure you're well aware.) Though it isn't popular to say in some circles, I have a soft spot for ol' serpent head. Political consultants are the ones that always seem to spill the beans when they leave, which may be why George Bush's consultant Lee Atwater quickly died of a brain tumor soon after the '88 election. Keep your eyes - and ears - on Carvile. One last thing: I'm still waiting for someone else to point out the signifigance that Bob Barr, the rabid attack dog in this case, is a self- professed "former" CIA agent. Thanks, Robert Sterling 3 Notes: Note 1: >From Conspiracy Nation News Service (See supporting article included at end) DOTS CONNECTED BETWEEN CLINTON, FLYNT ===================================== (CNNS, 01/22/99) -- Information contained in secret FBI files which are in the possession of the White House cannot be openly handed to the press. Were the White House to openly do so, in hopes of tarnishing the reputations of some Republicans now contending with the Clinton administration, there would be a backlash against the Clinton White House. Earlier this year, responding to continual exposes of questionable conduct by President Bill Clinton, James Carville, pit bull for Bill Clinton and his entourage, exclaimed, "This means war!" As pointed out by "Ru Mills" (pseudonym), "When this White House says 'war', they mean it." Former top-level Clinton aide, George Stephanopolous, hinted at White House strategy likely to be utilized as counter-attack against Republican opponents: "The Ellen Romesch Strategy." That strategy would be a mutually assured destruction of blackmail cards held by each of the opposing political camps. For example, if the Republicans play a "Jane Doe #5 card," the Democrats counter with a "Bob Barr extra-marital card." Two things can happen: (1) all out "war," with an explosion of scandals and counter-scandals, or (2) a "Mexican stand-off": a mutually assured destruction of potential scandals causes each side to hold their fire. A report in the commentary section of today's New York Post gives substantive background on characters operating in the Bill Clinton camp. ("A Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy?" by Sam Dealey. NYPost, 1/22/99.) The information is tantalizing, and connecting the dots between the various characters is provocative. Here, in a nutshell, are the "Cast of Characters": JAMES CARVILLE: Carville, together with associates Stan Greenberg and Robert Shrum, have been meddling in Israel's politics. They seek to influence the upcoming Israeli election and thereby oust Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, who is not favored by the Clintonites. ("Bibi Battered By Bill's Boys' Barbs," NYPost, 1/10/99.) In an apparent counter-move, the Washington, DC office of Stan Greenberg was recently burglarized, and then re-burglarized, apparently by forces favoring Netanyahu. The Clinton/Netanyahu feud is one aspect worthy of notice. Another tantalizing tidbit, offered by Dealey in his NYPost article of Jan. 22, 1999, is that Carville is a friend of Larry Flynt, publisher of Hustler magazine, and that they worked on a movie together. Flynt may have served as intermediary between the Clinton White House and the press, when he released allegations suggesting that Rep. Bob Barr had once had an extra-marital affair. STROBE TALBOTT: He is a long-time close friend of Bill Clinton. Talbott currently is Deputy Secretary of State. According to Larry Flynt, Talbott "is married to a sister of a very good friend of mine." CODY SHEARER: He is Larry Flynt's "very good friend." Cody Shearer's sister is married to Strobe Talbott. Shearer is "a former business associate of Terry Lenzner," as well as an old tennis buddy of Lenzner's. TERRY LENZNER: He is a private detective, employed by the Clinton's. Lenzner and others have been sometimes referred to as "the White House's Secret Police." Lenzner has been on the payroll of Bill Clinton's personal attorneys since 1994, according to Dealey's NYPost article. BROOKE SHEARER TALBOTT: She is married to Strobe Talbott. Brooke has been close friends with Hillary Clinton since their college days. Brooke used to work for private eye Terry Lenzner. DEREK SHEARER: He is brother of Brooke and Cody Shearer. Derek is an old Oxford chum of Bill Clinton. Currently, Derek Shearer is U.S. Ambassador to Finland. Before that, he worked in the U.S. Commerce Department, during the Clinton administration. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLY happening. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief | ---------------Phone: 217-356-4418---------------- Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." Note 2: New York Post COMMENTARY A VAST LEFT-WING CONSPIRACY? By SAM DEALEY ______________________________________________________________ WHEN Larry Flynt went public with the ''hypocrisy'' of Rep. Bob Barr, exposing him as a past adulterer and one of the ''biggest horn dogs in Congress,'' the Georgia Republican seemed certain the White House was in part behind the matter. ''I don't think that one can look at this situation with the close ties ... between the private investigators, the White House, between Sidney Blumenthal and these folks on the outside and come away with any other reasonable conclusion other than the fact that this is part of an overall scheme,'' Barr said. Other Republicans chimed in. But, as it has with similar charges these past few months, the White House denied the allegations and demanded that Republicans produce proof. ''If they've got evidence, they ought to bring it forward,'' said presidential spokesman Joe Lockhart. ''If not, they ought to knock it off.'' Reporters, too, questioned whether the president's inner circle was passing on dirt. Were White House aides involved? they asked Flynt. ''The only connection that I have got with Bill Clinton is that I voted for him twice. I've never met the man. I've never been to the White House.'' Presidential pit-bull James Carville? ''Well of course I am friends with James, we made a movie together ... But I've never discussed what I am doing with James.'' How about Clinton dirt-digger Terry Lenzner? ''No.'' But asked if he knew Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, Flynt said, ''I haven't seen Strobe Talbott in years. ... But he is married to a sister of a very good friend of mine.'' Surprisingly, that red flag went unnoticed. So who is Talbott's brother-in-law? His name is Cody Shearer, and a review of his White House connections reveals the possible workings of a new plumber operation. A self-styled ''free-lance journalist'' (although he hasn't published in nearly a decade), Shearer is a former business associate of Terry Lenzner's Investigative Group International - the premier opposition-research firm that Dick Morris calls ''the White House secret police.'' Lenzner's connections with Clinton go to the seamier side of politics. The Clinton campaign hired his firm in 1992 to do ''opposition research,'' a euphemism for dirt-digging. Since '94, the president's personal lawyers have had Lenzner on the payroll, reportedly searching under the beds and sniffing through the panties-drawers of Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky and members of Hillary's ''Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy,'' including Starr's team. Lenzner and Shearer are also old tennis buddies from Washington's tony St. Albans Tennis Club. Shearer's a close friend of Sidney Blumenthal's, too, according to published accounts. Could Shearer be passing Flynt the goods on GOP members? Neither Shearer nor Flynt returned calls seeking comment. But if this was the case, it wouldn't be the first time Shearer smeared a Clinton critic. In 1997, Cody Shearer tried to broker a deal between Lenzner and the Cheyenne-Arapaho tribes to investigate the Senate's Deputy Whip, Don Nickles (R-Okla.), who was a member of the committee probing an alleged shakedown of Indian tribes by the Clinton-Gore campaign in 1996. (Lenzner demanded $17,000 for the job, but tribal leaders ultimately decided not to hire him.) Shearer has tried to ingratiate himself with this White House before. Last summer, the State Department learned he was doing some free-lance negotiatingwith Serb and Muslim leaders on partitioning Bosnia - all while claiming he had the backing of the Clinton administration. Talbott himself had to write his brother-in-law to tell him to knock it off. The Shearer connections with the White House don't end there. Cody's twin sister Brooke - Strobe Talbott's wife - has been a friend of Hillary's since their college days. Brooke used to work for Terry Lenzner as an investigator, where her specialty was dumpster-diving, the fine art of sifting through the trash, and she reportedly remains in close contact with her old boss. Brooke joined the Clinton's 1992 campaign as an aide to Hillary. ''Sometimes at the end of the day, when Bill telephoned,'' she reminisced of the campaign, ''we'd be laughing so loud, doing imitations and carrying on, that he'd say, 'You guys sound like you're having a lot more fun than I am.''' After the campaign, she headed up Hillary's White House fellows program, and later moved on to become a senior advisor to the Interior Department. The Shearer family has yet another relative close to the president: Cody and Brooke's brother, Derek, an old Oxford chum of Bill's. They've kept up over the years: Derek Shearer played an instrumental role in the 1992 campaign. After serving on the transition team, he took a job at the Commerce Department, and was later awarded the ambassadorship to Finland. ''I want to be known as the ambassador who brought Ben and Jerry's to Finland,'' he said. And then there's Strobe Talbott himself. He also roomed at Oxford with Bill Clinton while they were both Rhodes Scholars, and went on to Yale Grad School when both Clintons were at Yale Law. Prior to joining the Clinton administration, Talbott was a Time columnist who carried a lot of water for his old pal's 1992 presidential campaign. Days after the Lewinsky story broke, ex-Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos first warned of a possible scorched-earth defense: ''The president said he would never resign, and I think some around him are willing to take everybody down with him.'' Could this be the makings of a not-so-vast left-wing conspiracy, or is it all Shearer coincidence? --- Sam Dealey is assistant managing editor of The American Spectator. Note 3: >From Clayton Douglas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Checked this story out. It is bogus. There is no such paper, no such court, no such cop. Clay Douglas Subject: Fw: Carville Arrested!!! Out On Bail. (fwd) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:18:42 -0600 (CST) From: Brian Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 21 Jan 1999 04:25:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PowerLib) wrote: White House Political Advisor Accused of Domestic Violence The Montgomery County Ledger By Lee Canular, 20-January-1999 Wednesday ROCKVILLE, MD -- James Carville, vocal supporter and confidant of President Bill Clinton, reportedly spent last Monday night in the Montgomery County Jail after he was arrested on suspicion of firing a gun into a sofa and repeatedly plunging a knife into a wall during a fight with his wife in their suburban home here earlier that evening, according to local police sources. Rockville police said neighbors called them to the Carville home at about 6:40 p. m. Monday evening after hearing gunshots. Carville, an internationally known political consultant and Democrat Party campaign manager, allegedly had twice discharged a Glock nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol inside the home, damaged a living room wall with an oversized hunting knife, threatened the life of his wife, radio talk show host Mary Matalin Carville, and used physical force against her. Rockville police subsequently took him into custody on suspicion of domestic violence and brandishing a weapon, both misdemeanors. He was also charged with discharging a firearm in a negligent manner, a violation which could be prosecuted as a felony. Carville, 54, apparently was not shooting at his wife when he twice fired at the couch, although she was in the room at the time, said Rockville Police Lt. Bobby Masters. The woman was not injured, Masters noted, and it did not appear that the safety of the couple's two young children was ever jeopardized. Masters also indicated that officers confiscated the handgun, as well as the hunting knife, two shotguns, and an AR-15 model semi-automatic assault rifle, and are holding them as evidence as their investigation continues. The pistol firearm, which has no serial number, is believed to be unregistered. After his night's detention, Mr. Carville posted bail on a preliminary charge of domestic violence in the amount of $3500 Tuesday morning, pending formal arraignment in Montgomery County Superior Court on Friday, February 12, 1999. Outside the court room, Carville's attorney, Mr. Harrison Jackson of the Washington, D. C. firm of Waltham, Jackson and Curtis, said neither of the Carvilles would be making public comments on the matter. "They both just want to bring this whole thing to closure as soon as possible," said Mr. Jackson. Mrs. Carville did not attend the bail hearing and has not returned repeated phone calls. The couple is known for their co-authorship of All's Fair: Love, War, and Running for President (Simon & Schuster/ Random House, 1994), one of the best selling campaign memoirs in American history. During their 1992 courtship, Mrs. Carville, nee Matalin, was a campaign manager for President Bush's re-election effort, and Mr. Carville worked for the Clinton campaign. Ami DeCour contributed to this article. -- The Free American Newsmagazine 2943 US Highway 380 Bingham, NM 87832 505-423-3250 Fax 505-423-3258 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.freeamerican.com Sample July Issue - $4.00 1 Year Subscription - $30.00 2 year or 2 subs - $50.00 The Free American Radio Hour - NEW TIME NEW FREQUENCY Weekdays 7:00AM Mountain - WWCR 12.160 Satellites - Republic Radio Int. Galaxy 7, Transponder 14, Audio 7.71 V Saturdays: 9:00AM Mountain Shortwave- WWCR 12.160 Satellites - Republic Radio Int. Galaxy 7, Transponder 14, Audio 7.71 V
