-Caveat Lector-
Wes has made a supreme ass of himself......once more he has
revealed himself as just another pawn.
How dare you harass FWP?
What unmitigated gall.......what chutzpa.
I like Wes Montgomery but not this Wes/pawn
D
-----Original Message-----
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 4:51 PM
Subject: [CTRL] [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic
Improvement of the Plan... (fwd)
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>You've made yourself a topic of discussion Wes. So I suggest you not
>harass me again by whining to my ISP webmaster.
>FWP.
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:30:11 -0800 (PST)
>From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement
of
> the Plan...
>
>From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, James Horak wrote:
>
>> From: James Horak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > In a message dated 1/29/99 7:55:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> >
>> > << Is Wes just a prawn of The Establishment (see subsequent postings)
or is
>> > >he a CIA/NSA flunky (or both)? >>
>> >
>> > Wes allowed several of us to be harrassed into arguing back and
thence
>> > "kicked out" of his MC-list. It was somehow connected to the KK crowd.
>> >
>>
>> Exactly. JCH
>
>The broader issue here is how the internet could be used for mind control
>even on a global scale. Someone else asked off-list for more detail on
>that TV movie which will be shown here on Rogers Cable on that theme.
>Sorry-I didn't get the title down. All I have is that it is explicitly on
>the theme of conspirators using internet to control the planet, Monday at
>9:00 PM in Vancouver on Channel 8. Rogers might tell you more via
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> Now I'm not saying Wes Thomas IS such a conspirator but his moderating
>"style" has certainly left some of us wondering if he couldn't be used at
>least as a case study in how this might be done via discussion lists.
>He has trotted out all the usual lines to defend his restrictions on
>discussion, eg (1) these lists are MY private property and I'll do what I
>want; (2) what I don't like is "off topic"; (3) if you challenge or
>question that you are "threatening" me and you are "flaming" me; (4) if
>you bring this up on other lists where I (Wes) am an ordinary subscriber
>you are "spamming" and violating "netiquette". Finally he has complained
>to my webmaster knowing that there are local politics in ISP services and
>he might well put a stop to any exposure of what he is up to by getting
>ISP service discontinued.
> Of course list ownership is a reality and netiquette and spamming are
>realities. But the issue is how these things could be put forward to
>carefully regulate discussion on the internet and a substantial part of
>human thinking, attitudes and opinions. Could the mindcontrol agencies
>like CIA/NSA etc. use a Wes Thomas in this way? Definitely. Consider that
>the three lists I have been on all cover topics of great military
>significance: Mind Control; Electronic Warfare and Biowarfare. Now,
>sometimes I can be off topic like anyone else and I have moderated a half
>dozen lists so I know that you have to "call" people for being off topic.
>But I was first called for being off-topic on Biowar when I said that the
>religious issues and Biblical references in connection with them were
>crucial in understanding what might motivate biowar. Indeed that got me
>turfed off. It is most emphatically NOT off topic. But it is a very
>"sensitive" as well as important issue-the kind that CIA/NSA types want to
>keep in THEIR control and do not want us unwashed masses to deal with.
>Also what about the "Green Conspiracy" which I posted to Thomas'
>Mindcontrol list and which was called off-topic? I was asked on
>snetnews/l&j what my references were for saying that one-third of the
>planet had been mapped by the ultra-rich for wilderness set-asides as sort
>of a "private country" of huge proportions. Good question: always get
>those facts shored up. The kind of facts that the mind contollers don't
>want you to have.
> I had to go back a decade in my notes for this. In the late 1980's a
>Colorado businessman/activist named George Hunt lectured in Vancouver. He
>had been a host at the "Fourth World Wilderness Conference" in Boulder in
>1987. The Green billionaires of the planet were there: Rockefellers,
>Rothschilds etc. Hunt had the tapes and literature including their map of
>the planet with 1/3 of its area in wilderness set asides. Hunt's address
>then was 95 camino Bosque, Boulder, Co. 80302. You can get similar
>information from the LaRouchies and aside from their prone-ness to
>unsubstantiated exaggeration I think they have this one right. I asked
>Hunt about his connection to the LaRouchies and in general he seemed to be
>mildly anatagonistic to them so they are not from the same choir.
>Think of it-if you are in a small clique which controls 1/3 of the planet
>and all its wealth you have created a new country with greater wealth by
>far than any other. Even Kruchkov, former KGB Chief (before he went nuts
>and attacked Yeltysn and the new order) said the Green movement would be
>the next dominant ideological theme on the planet. What better way to
>seize control over 1/3 of the land on earth than by using a "motherhood"
>ideology like Green activism? Off topic? Is Wes Thomas a useful idiot to
>these people unknowingly or is he a paid agent? Paid again to keep the
>really important topics which the New World Order doesn't want discussed,
>OFF THE LISTS. Ditto for the "artificial life" issue which Wes ruled off
>topic. Look, I have a doctorate in behaviour genetics and I am on the
>Human Genome list. This list is now talking about how geneticists are
>seriously trying to create living creatures from non-living molecules.
>Why wouldn't I link that to crystals and the creation of a new generation
>of robots/intelligent machines which have awesome powers? Not "Robo-cop"
>yet, but certainly "Robo-pope" is within current technological
>capabilities. Robo-pope could be programmed as long as the dogmas and
>catechism (religious questions and answers) remain so clearly defined.
> OK, so Wes couldn't really defend his "off topic" position. His lists
>read like the Aum Cult's fantasy religion and that is exactly what the
>mind controllers want to limit your thinking to. So Wes had to go for the
>old "list as private property" pitch. Too bad he also put himself on other
>lists where general current affairs are discussed like snetnews and
>CTRL. Confronting him on these lists led to the next stage in defense....
>You are "harassing" me he said. What harassment? Is it harassment to ask
>such reasonable questions about how the internet COULD be used by
>unscrupulous mind controllers?
>FWP.
>
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