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J FROST wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> One writes:
>
> The Drug War is marketed as the only way to "save our children." Yet,
> eighty
> years into the most protracted and expensive experiment in Prohibition in
> history, illicit drugs are more available on the streets, on our
> playgrounds,
> and in our school yards than ever. What are the real consequences of
> these
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> what's
> gone wrong, and how we can fix it.
>
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> ===================================================
> Why not make robbery, rape and murder legal.
> ///
> Because those are crimes against persons...I am arguing for
> decriminalizing victimless crimes...
> \\\
> When women are raped by those in a stupor
> When people are killed in wrecks by those in a stupor
> When dopers are in a stupor robbing and killing people
> are there no victims?
> ===============================================
> It is not legal to be drunk and drive?
>
> Of course it is illegal to be drunk and driving but
> after one becomes drunk, they get in a stupor and their
> logic/fears/reflexes are lost. Their fear of being caught
> drunk or doped up .. their common sense is lost...
> so because it was legal for them to get drunk, they
> got in a stupor and because they got in a stupor
> *  It cost the rest of us money out of our pockets to pay
>    for their stupor.
> *  It cost injury and death to thousands of innocent each
>     year for their right to be in a stupor.
>
>                              Victimless crimes?
> *  Tell me why non drunks have to pay billions of dollars
>     for extra cops to catch and lock up drunks (who are involved
>    in legal dope)
> *  Tell me why innocent people killed by drunks aren't victims?
> *  Tell me why the families of innocent victims are not victims of
> drunks?
>
> ====================================================
> Legal drunks ... Legal dope users .... so then the government
> makes their slaughter, assaults, rapes legal ?
> ///
> Most rapes, etc., are NOT done by drunks...or by dope users...
> \\\
> Duh, did you miss 48 hours last week. What amount of rapes
> did they reveal happened while the pervert was in a stupor?
>
> and the statistics on all the criminals in prison, 80% of them
> were stupid on booze/dope when they committed their crimes.
> =====================================================
> So you ARE arguing for reinstution of Prohibition, aren't you?  Just come
> out and admit it.
> ///
> NO, prohibition could never work in a government in which the politicians
> are mob bosses on the take.
> The only way prohibition would ever work is by having the death penalty
> for drunks/dope users and the death penalty for those who get rich
> defending
> them.
> With in a year there would be about 2000 executions and after perverts
> knew they could not get away with it or buy their way out of it, it would
> become
> almost non existent.
> After that time the perverts would stop killing themselves and innocent
> victims.
> With in 10 years there would be over 15 times more lives saved than those
> executed.
> NO, I am not stupid enough to think it will ever happen in a corrupt
> government
> in which the perverts have their rights at the loss of the rights of the
> innocent.
> I know innocent people will never have their rights in America, I only
> point out
> that perverts and their bleeding hearts are an evil force in an evil
> nation.
>
> It does not matter that it will not be changed, establishing the faces of
> the evil
> is my only point.
> ==========================================================
> "Making dope legal will stop crime"
>
>                                          Double Duh
> Booze is legal and on the cop videos and in our newspapers we see
> grocery stores broken into, we read about people being killed by
> drunks who are just getting enough money to get drunk.
> ///
> How do they know that the crimes were done by those who are alcoholics?
> \\\
> Because they admitted to that reason, because they were caught stealing
> booze, because the muggers beating/killing their victims were drunks/dope
> users who were not robbing to by a tv, fix their car or to send money to
> Fawell,
> They beat and rob victims in order to get their next stupor.
> They were stupid on dope or booze while committing their crimes !
>
> How do I know, because that is what the FACTS state.
> =======================================================
> they wouldn't have to do if heroin, etc., were available CHEAPLY to them
> via a government program...
> We'd also cut down on the incidencense of diseases which are spread via
> the sharing of needles...
> ///
> Take a look at the documentary on needle park and see what a crock this
> is.
>
> Who is going to pay for the government doctors, offices and dope...
> me?
> =============================================================
> Heh Heh ... yeah I have the transcript about needle park. It showed
> a place where people were allowed to have all the dope they wanted
> and after about 7 years ago, they went back. 73% of them are now
> dead.
> ///
> Perhaps.  But at least the programs got them off the streets, and stopped
> them from committing crimes against the public, and now the park is a
> safe place for families to bring their children.
> \\\
> Yeah, it is save now because they got rid of all the dope users.
>
> Giving someone money so they won't assault or kill us? Sound like
> extortion?
> The last program that got them off the streets is a government dope
> center
> in which innocent tax payers are forced to supply them with dope, doctors
> and medical buildings "so they are safe"
>
> Imagine that, me giving money to a dope user so they won't mug, rob or
> kill me
> or my family.
>                Me being forced to pay taxes to keep a stooge in a stupor.
>
>                                        Listen to yourself.
> A mind is a terrible thing to waste, but one must first have one.
>
> ==============================================================
> As for the government supplying dope users with dope ... Yeah
> imagine that, me paying tax money to the government to keep
> dope users stupid on drugs.
> ///
> You're paying big tax money for a 'war on drugs' which isn't working...
> why not institute a program which has been demonstrated to SAVE the tax
> payer money in the long run
> \\\
> Heh Heh, make me prez and the government will become a dope pusher.
> We will pass a law that makes it legal to sell poison dope.
> As the government decides innocent babies do not have the right to live,
> the government can decide dope users don't have the right to live.
> We will make it legal to put poison in any dope and after the idiots
> start
> dropping like flies.. just think "how much tax money we will save in the
> long run".
>
> You (liberals) want to pay to support the drug habits of dope users, fine
> then register with the government and we are willing to let you set up an
> area of the country where your dope users can live and YOU liberals
> can pay to support the dope user's habits.
>
> I am quite willing to allow liberals to have THEIR WAY as long as they
> are
> willing to take THE RESPONSIBILITY of their own wishes.
> =======================================================
>
> We know being drunk and driving is illegal but after someone becomes
> drunk
> or doped up, they get in a stupor and do not give a damn about what is
> legal.
>
> *  Would you want your parents to be in a plane with a dope using pilot?
> *  Would you let your a dope user be the driver of your kid's school bus?
> *  Do you like to be around drunks or dope users or do you think they are
>     stupid bastards?
> *  Would you want your son or daughter marry a dope user?
> *  If your option was to have dope users or non dope users working for
>     you, which would you chose?
> *  Would you allow your kids to play in a park that dope users hang out
> in?
> *  Would you want any of your loved ones in the hospital where the
> doctors
>      were druggies?
> *  Would you want to have crack users driving on the roads?
> *  Would you want your kid's teachers to be dope users?
>
> The test of a dirt bag is finding out if they have different standards
> for others
> than they have for themselves.
> What do you say loud mouth liberals, would you be willing to have your
> own
> families put in these situations if you could stop it?
>
> =======================================================
> No,no,no!  You forget his post regarding locking up all us 'supporters'
> of drunks/dopers in some sort of concentration camp with the actual
> substance abusers....
> ///
> No, no, no! my post suggest either
>
> *  Quick execution of perverts
> *  Liberals and perverts having their own region where the liberals take
>    on the cost of taking care of the perverts they defend.
> *  Liberals taking on the total financial cost created by perverts.
>
> No I don't want to lock you up and pay to keep you, nor am I stupid
> enough to
> think any of these things will ever happen.
>       Imagine submitting to the extortion of perverts to save money.
> Imagine that, the American people supplying perverts with dope so they
> will not beat, rob or kill their families
> =================================================
>
>     Dope users, homosexuals, whores, drunks, gamblers ...
>                     Every segment of society who
> 1)  Forces others to pay for their perverted acts.
> 2)  sickens
> 3)  injures
> 4)  terrorizes
> 5)  kills innocent people
>
>   ARE PERVERTS WHO ARE THE ENEMY OF DECENT PEOPLE
>
> I only point out that the bleeding hearts who protect and fraternize with
> the
> enemy of the innocent segment of society is no knight in shinning armor,
> LIBERALS  are cock roaches who ARE THE ENEMY
> of the innocent/decent segment of society !
>
> ====================================================
>
> Let's do this ... find all the dope/booze/whore/homosexual supporting
> liberals.
> All of you agree on some nice part of the country where you would like to
> live and migrate to your mecca of perverts.
> Let them run free or you pay for the cops to control them, you pay for
> the doctors,
> hospitals and dope to keep them happy. (no moralist allowed)
>
> Let the self righteous moralist chose their part of the country where
> they
> can migrate to and have their area to themselves ... with out any fear,
> injury,
> death ... with no perverts allowed.
>
> You and your family live in the middle of the perverts you defend and we
> and our
> families live in the middle of the self righteous moralist. You pay for
> all the cops
> and medical cost of your people and we do the same.
>
> We can never come into your territory and you can never come into ours.
> If our kids decide to join you they can and if your kids decide to join
> us, they
> can.
>                                     What do you say?
>
> Let us do this ... Liberals support the rights of perverts so let all
> liberals register
> as supporters of pervert rights.
> Let some government agency figure the amount of taxes paid for extra
> cops,
> aids research, aids medicines, aids homes, jails, hospitals ...
> Let the government figure all cost caused by pervert rights.
>
> Now all liberals support the rights of perverts so let the liberals pay
> for all taxes
> needed to pay for the acts of the perverts.
> ONLY you want it, so ONLY you pay for it ...
>                              Agreed?
> Why not divide the country into smoking and non-smoking? Or how about getting
> rid of the drug dealers,(the BIG ONES, not the dime bag guy) then people
> wouldn't be able to buy drugs.Why

blame the little addict when it's the gov. pushing in the first place??My humble
opinion as it is.....hmmm...

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