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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, "Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> was it Gurdyeff who said that if we can survive we must 'hate what we
>>love and love what we hate' sounds like Tavistock style social
>>engineering [IMO] nice bit of disorientation before we get repatterned

>It may also be that the "Barbarians" were treated fairly well by the
>Romans (probably because they were not that strong in the area). So they
>traded and got along as best as could be. Probably enjoyed the benefits
>of association with people with a higher technology and culture. They
>probably were also smart enough to know that it might be safer to get
>along then to fight.

Which is very typical of the Dutch to this very day...

But I wonder why viewing the Germanic peoples who resided in what is now
the Netherlands as peaceful people is considered akin to 'hating what we
love' or 'loving what we hate'...what's so bad about Germanic people being
found to be peace-loving rather than to have been 'rampaging
barbarians'...

Seems to me it's akin to what happened with the Neanderthal -- when first
discovered during the Victorian era, Neanderthals were also depicted as
'barbarians', albeit slow, clumsy, and stupid...a concept which continued
well into the modern era, as Neanderthals were almost always shown in
movie and TV as little more than apes, always violent towards the more
'civilized' Cro Magnons...

Yet recent archeological discoveries have shown the Neanderthals to have
been a relatively sophisticated people, who obviously took loving care of
their sick and maimed loved ones, and lovingly buried them...


June

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