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2/18/99 ARMED AND DANGEROUS
Training ammo claim disputed
Military sources say
Army is lying about Kingsville raid
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By David M. Bresnahan
� 1999 WorldNetDaily.com
The Army claim that only training ammunition was used in a recent mock
raid on a small Texas town is a deliberate lie, according to other Army
sources and an investigator.
Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, has con-
firmed that elite Night Stalkers and Delta Force troops were involved in a
training exercise, code named Last Dance. Walt Sokalski confirmed that the
operation began Feb. 8 in Kingsville, Texas, and will continue in the area
until February 20.
He also confirmed that live ammunition and explosives were used in the
middle of a populated area with no advance warning to residents. Sokalski in-
sisted that every possible safety precaution was taken, including the use of
training munitions and special stray bullet "traps."
He told WorldNetDaily that full-powered ammunition and explosives are
never used in areas where civilians are located. The "simunition" is less
powerful and uses plastic bullets that can only travel 100 yards. Such
bullets are not considered lethal.
Residents of Kingsville reported hearing machine-gun fire and explosions
lasting two hours when the Night Stalkers arrived in their little town
unannounced. Many suffered sufficient fear over the incident to seek medical
treatment, and some are talking to lawyers about possible legal action.
County commissioners ordered the county judge to send a letter to the
city council and to the Army to protest the attack on their town and the fact
that they were not informed.
Night Stalkers are some of the best pilots in the world. They are expert
at flying high speed helicopters at low altitudes. They delivered another
elite group, the Delta Force to the site in Kingsville. They arrived in a
hail of bullets and explosions that rocked the town and scared some residents
nearly to death. Residents of a retirement home across the street were
reported to be on the floor under their beds thinking the world was coming to
an end.
WorldNetDaily sent Alex Jones, an Austin talk show host, to Kingsville
to inspect the damage caused to two buildings used in the dramatic attack. He
reported finding brass shells from spent .308 ammunition, used shotgun shells
marked "HATTON Pattern Solid," extensive blast damage from grenades, multiple
fires in different parts of the building, bullet holes in the floor and walls
and all the windows of the building blown out completely.
"That doesn't sound like fake stuff to me," Jones responded when he was
asked if he agreed with Sokalski's statement that less-powerful training
bullets were used.
An active-duty Army captain who asked that his name be withheld
contacted WorldNetDaily after reading Sokalski's claim. He has many years of
experience and is concerned about the nature of the exercise. He knows what
to look for to determine if training munitions were used.
"Simunition and plastic bullets do not make holes. Only live rounds do.
I saw the picture of the discharged shotgun shell which may have been used for
entry," Jones told WorldNetDaily. He was impressed that evidence was obtained
before the scene was cleaned up.
Cleaning crews were actually on site at the time Jones arrived to take
pictures and gather evidence. Both buildings are now cleaned up, the evidence
has been removed, and they are all boarded up with plywood.
"Practice grenades (grenade simulators) are made of paper and look
similar to a very thick toilet paper tube with clear plastic on each end.
They do not function the same as a grenade (they don't cause damage when they
explode). Their purpose is only to make noise. They leave paper residue that
is easy to find," explained Smith.
"We didn't see anything like that," said Jones when told about the
practice grenades.
"What you were told by the PA (Sokalski) isn't necessarily true," the
captain charged. "Simunitions were not used. They never use that. It's a
good thing your guy collected the brass because I'm sure there's none to be
found now.
"Live rounds are used, and that's just the way they train. Also, my
thoughts on that .308 round. Most entry teams don't use that as a primary
weapon, however depending on what kind of air support was available you may
have had mini-guns firing (from the helicopters)."
Numerous other military officers and former officers also contacted
WorldNetDaily about the claim that training ammunition was used. They all
stated that it was obvious that Sokalski was either uninformed or deliberately
misrepresenting the facts.
"They really think we're so stupid that we can't figure this out," said
Jeff Norgrove, a former Night Stalker. He said that most Night Stalkers and
Delta Force members are young and unaware of what is really going on.
"They just do what they're told. It's exciting, and the pay is very
good. They get paid much more than anyone else, and they have a great time,"
he told WorldNetDaily.
Norgrove said that a very select group of young men are recruited for
these two elite groups. They receive intensive training, and are considered
the very best there is. He said that he is concerned about the urban assault
training that is taking place.
"These aren't really military exercises," remarked the captain. "What
they are is SWAT training. The Army will never admit that to you, but that's
what it is."
The exercise is always conducted in the dark of night. The helicopters
are painted dark with a special paint that resembles sand paper and appears
black to avoid radar detection. They fly with no lights on and have markings
that cannot be seen under those conditions, according to Sokalski.
They fly just feet over the tops of trees and houses at high speed. One
helicopter in the Kingsville raid was so low that it hit the top of a
telephone pole, causing a fire by a house.
Soldiers get out quickly wearing black uniforms and begin firing machine
guns. Sokalski was asked what would happen if a frightened resident concluded
that these were unfriendly forces and decided to shoot at them.
"They are under orders not to return fire," Sokalski explained. The
soldiers involved would call the local police to handle the shooter in such a
situation.
Despite not knowing the circumstances of the mock attack, no one in
Kingsville opened fire on the soldiers or brandished arms during the exercise.
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