From: "tom nead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I went to 2 of the alledged concentration camps (#4 & #5) and could find no
machine toting guards or anyone who much gave a shit about me being there,
and certainly no evidence of major constuction.  Also the original site now
has a notice that says the earlier story is false.
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Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 9:39 PM
Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Somebody tell me that none of this is real...


>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Is this more government coverups, or someone's imagination run amok?
>Somebody tell me that none of this is real...please!
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>SoCal Concentration Camps - Locations In LA And Ventura Counties
>
>>From Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -  3-7-99
>http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/campssoca.htm
>
>Note - If any of you can get to these locations and take some photos, we
>would appreciate seeing them and will add them to this story. Suggest you
>use caution and take a zoom lens along. Thanks to Don for this information.
>
>Concentration Camp Locations in Southern California
>For all you disbeliever's and gun control idiots who think the government
>knows best, I've compiled a short list of camps you can visit. These camps
>have armed guards, surveillance systems, and many fences with the barbed
wire
>pointing IN. If you voted for gun-control, then you probably deserve a
place
>in one of these things, as you've sold not only you and your own children
down
>the road, but me and mine as well. Thanks a lot.
>
>1. PEARBLOSSOM, CALIFORNIA: Located at the intersection of Ave 116 and the
>Pearblossom Highway, this is a full-service facility, complete with gas
>chambers, moat, machine gun towers, and roving armed patrols. Visit at your
>own risk. If you do decide to see this one, you will be descended upon by
some
>very mean fellows, who will get your ID and license, then monitor you.
>
>2. FILMORE, CALIFORNIA: Located on highway 126, this at first glance looks
>like an orange grove and is located on the north side of the highway. It
>sports guard centers, three--count em--three sets of fences, all pointing
in,
>and some very nasty armed men who tell you to "mind your own business."
This
>camp is huge.
>
>3. SANTA PAULA, CALIFORNIA: This is a holding camp, designed as a
stock-yard
>type of facility for those rounded up in the early sweeps.
>
>4. VALENCIA, CALIFORNIA: This is one of the largest camps ever constructed
and
>measures some two miles by three miles, using the resivoir at the
intersection
>of the 5 and 405 freeways as a cover. New buildings, armed guards, new
roads,
>and many hundreds of buildings for housing the damned.
>
>5. GLENDALE, CALIFORNIA: Right behind Brand Park, take the 5 interstate to
>Western Ave, then head north up the hill till you arrive at the park. Then
>take the road -- by foot -- by the doctor's house on the northwestern part
of
>the park. Proceed up the hill to you reach the resivoir, which is in fact,
a
>holding facility. When we were there last, there were five armed guards
with
>M16s walking around.
>  ---
>  Commentary on the Concentration Camps - By Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Dear friends,
>
>Recently, I sent out to the various news media an extremely small list of
>Concentration Camps recently built by your United States Government. As it
>happens, very few journalists acted upon the information and shared it with
>listeners/viewers/readers. Of course, once the information was made public,
>I've now become slandered, attacked, and called all sorts of names and the
>like. How interesting it is that when we bring truth to our world, the
>messenger is killed, even if symbolically.
>
>Many of us in the media have been aware of these hideous camps since their
>inception. It only takes a look at the history of this century to know what
>will happen in them once they are populated. The heart shudders at such
>knowledge but ignoring it won't make it go away. The only answer is to get
the
>information out there in the world and make our elected government answer.
>
>I've personally visited these camps and have taken pictures. They are REAL.
>They are manned. They have moats, motion sensors, inner berms to hide the
main
>complexes, guards at the gates, electric gates, processing centers, and of
>course, high fences with razor wire and barbed pointing inward - not
outward -
>but inward to KEEP PEOPLE IN.
>
>The larger facilities are called golf courses or water treatment plants.
When
>was the last time you saw a golf course (Portland, Oregon) with armed
guards
>carrying M16s? Why do the larger facilities have smokestacks? Ever see a
>crematorium? The smaller facilities are usually holding facilities,
obviously
>designed for the short-term roundups prior to the hapless souls being
shipped
>off to their final destination somewhere else.
>
>You have to know that it was never my intention to uncover this information
to
>frighten anyone nor to get publicity, as so many claim. As my readers are
well
>aware, I stumbled upon this stuff in research for a new book. I have a
family
>and want to see them grow up and they want to have a father that is alive,
not
>dead. Reporting this type of information has made me very unpopular with
the
>government and I've been warned many times by the FBI to 'mind my own
>business.' Unlike many of my contemporaries, I've chosen to research these
>camp claims for myself.
>
>I HAD to see them with my own eyes. They do exist. But the real question
that
>needs to be asked - and asked fast - is why?
>
>Why are they being built? Whom are they for? Why does the government deny
>their existence? A friend of mine and I discovered 32 camps in just one
county
>in Colorado alone. You can drive right up to them. However, the Department
of
>Corrections in Colorado, the Marshall's Office, the County Sheriffs office,
>and the Federal agencies in Colorado all claim there is nothing at these
sites
>except the lonesome prairie. That's just a flat out lie.
>
>Because of the staggering amount of mail I've received on this, my friends
in
>the media - what few there are who have the guts to print the truth - have
>allowed me to answer a myriad amount of questions regarding the camps. No
one
>- not a single person - has reported this information on the evening news
nor
>in their newspapers. Most of these questions are from the Internet by
people
>who have read the research material and it is their questions that are
being
>answered.
>
>Why such a short-list? This was a good question and I've given the reason
much
>thought. We've uncovered over 700 hundred camps so far. We have pictures to
>prove their existence. The answer is: We wanted to get as much of a
complete
>listing as we possibly could before going public. The reason for that is
>obvious: you can't research very much when you are in jail on trumped-up
>charges or dead, can you? The other part of the answer is that we are still
>observing the construction going on there. For the most part we are very
much
>watched when we visit them; we are stopped by armed men who ask to see ID.
>This on public roads. Making a circus of these sites will only get innocent
>people killed. Know this; if you visit these camps you will end up under
>government surveillance, and these folks are not very kind. Also, most, if
not
>all the construction on these facilities happens at night. Why?
>
>Locations. They seem to be popping up everywhere. For example, in January
of
>1999, there were no camps in Fillmore California, now there are two (March
>1999.) They seem to ring around population centers for the most part, with
>many short-term 'holding facilities' buried in the hills and dales around
the
>inner cities. There are over 53 camps in Southern California.
>
>How do you determine if they are a concentration camp? This one is easy.
Have
>you ever seen a prison up close? They do have certain features that are
>unmistakable from other types of things like schools or churches. Here are
the
>determining factors. It has to have:
>
>1. Barbed wire or razor wire fences that point inward. Look at most
security
>fences. The top portion points out to keep trespassers out, right? Prisons,
>labor camps and the like all have their fence tops pointing in so that the
>inmates are greatly hampered in climbing them.
>
>2. Some type of guard facility that is defendable and wired with microwave
>transmitters.
>
>3. Armed guards parading around in golf-pro shirts or department of water
>clothing. I wasn't aware that our utilities were arming their employees
with
>MP5s and M16s. Even the smallest facility we found had five, count em, five
>armed guards in tactical gear.
>
>4. Tactical berms to hide the main complexes from the road. These also have
>moats, not yet filled with water, that surround the inner complex. The camp
in
>Pearblossom is an excellent example of a full-service camp. The people go
in,
>but they don't come out.
>
>What was all that nonsense anyway about gun control?
>My research into concentration camps revealed that prior to each country's
use
>of such things, they first disarmed their people with gun-control
propaganda.
>Personally, I'm all for gun control, as long as it applies to true gun
control
>- and that means disarming - not militarizing the police, the criminals,
and
>the dictators the world over. Have you ever seen someone gut shot? It's
>horrible. However, when you find them rounding up you and your loved ones
>(separating the parents from the children) you'll soon realize the only
>preventing a repeat performance of The Holocaust is firearms. The founding
>fathers of America knew what they were talking about and had some pretty
good
>insight when they created the constitution. It is a well-known fact that
the
>CIA created HCI (Handgun Control Inc) and that it is a well-funded creature
of
>the CIA. Why does the CIA want America's citizens disarmed? That's the real
>question. You can't have a dictatorship or Martial Law if the voters are
>armed, can you? Mr. Bradley, I think you are full of it. That may be so,
but
>if I am wrong, why is the government going to such lengths to hide them in
>orange groves and other 'first-glance' disguises? Why are they tapping my
>phones, following me around, and then following the people I talk to? Why
are
>those men and women in the media who are publicizing my research being
called
>by people who are trying to discredit me as some kind of nut case?
>
>Aren't you scared?
>Sure. Everyday of my life. But not for my own existence. Quite frankly,
after
>spending two years exposing Remote Viewing for the mind-control sham that
it
>is, I haven't been in good graces with the alphabet-soup agencies. I fear
that
>this knowledge may be too little, too late. Quite frankly, if we don't get
>some public awareness on this issue and soon, we might all be having some
>firsthand experience with camps. When they come for you in Martial Law,
they
>round up journalists who are independent, Lawyers, History Professors,
>Constitutionalists, Minorities, and anyone who won't surrender their
firearms.
>As well, they also have been compiling, since 1994, lists of people buying
>food, weapons, clothing, etc., Again, the right question is, why the lists?
>Why the camps? Why so many? Why moats and electric fences? Why turnstiles
that
>are color-coded for processing? Why are there angry white (I don't know
why,
>but so far the guards we have run into have all been white males in their
late
>twenties to early thirties) guards carrying automatic weapons and telephoto
>cameras? WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT BUILDING THESE CAMPS AND DENYING THEIR
>EXISTENCE?
>
> When will you supply us with the complete list of camps?
>Well, not sure if it will ever be complete. We've been to places where
there
>were only two camps (El Canon City, Colorado, February 1998, for example)
and
>went back five months later and there were seven camps. The camps in
Colorado,
>by the way, are Huge in every sense of the word. These, it seems apparent,
are
>final destination or full-service camps. Also, I am only one man. It takes
a
>lot of time and money (both ever on short supply) to research these things
and
>I usually do it when traveling on other business. Plus, having a machine
gun
>shoved in your face tends to ruin your day. The camps around Utah and
Arizona
>are the spookiest ones we've photographed. These are very clearly camps for
>the undead. All the full-service camps have rail spurs and landing strips
>adjacent to them.
>
> What are the purposes of these camps?
>Read history, what of it in print they haven't managed to dispose of by
now.
>Camps hold people. They aren,t prisons in the normal sense of the word. A
>prison has a hospital, a gym, food facilities, recreation yards, and cells
for
>the inmates. Camps are like stockyards for humans. Very little shelter and
a
>great deal of death.
>
> What do you think the government's reaction will be to this report of
yours?
>What it has always been: plausible deniability, a phrase and action created
by
>the covert agencies of this country. First, deny the existence. Then, if
that
>fails, explain it away with a limited hangout (short for another lie, but
this
>time with a small miter of truth.)
>
> When were they built?
>By all indications, and since we've started looking at these things in
early
>1998, it appears most of the larger facilities were started around 1995 and
>are still being modified. The smaller holding type facilities are being
>rapidly built RIGHT NOW.
>
> How can I find one in my area?
>It's rather easy, but you have to have two things: one, a mind that isn't
>sleeping or daydreaming. Two, a watchful eye. That's how we did it. We just
>started paying attention to our surroundings. The government counts on most
>folks not even really knowing what is around in their own neighborhoods.
Also,
>start looking at the fringes of your city, as this seems to be where they
like
>to place them. Look first for the fences pointing in that's the most
>noticeable feature about the camps that you usually can see from the road.
>Near Trinidad, Colorado, many of the outlying residents watched the
>construction happen and were warned off by armed men without badges when
they
>tried to approach the builders. Most, if not all building, is done at
night.
>
>Why were they built?
>That's the question, isn't it?
>
> Isn't there some other explanation for them, like a new kind of cheap
prison?
>Really?
>Would you want to be in a prison with no shelter, hospital, nor any other
kind
>of formal living arrangements and exposed to the elements? Listen, I wish
>these things didn't exist. I get sick everytime I find another one. I
didn't
>create them, you know. The messenger isn't to blame for the message.
>
> Have you seen Elvis and where is he now?
>I'm sorry, that's the next site over, not this one. Please move on.
>
> When do you think they will start populating these camps?
>Don't know. But by all indications, they are being built up at a rather
>startling rate. That indicates a time-line of sorts. A deadline has been
set
>and they are trying to get in place and readiness for something.
>
>Anything Else?
>Sure. Tons of information. What would you do with it? Most people don't
want
>to know, period. It's scary stuff.
>
>http://www.sightings.com/ufo2/campssoca.htm
>
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