-Caveat Lector- Ric Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> > Hey, everybody: > > Are Murkans really "too sinful to be trusted with liberty" ?? Should > fundy jeezoids withdraw from secular society? Would the anti-commie, > anti-capitalist Pope be happier with a system like the old days, when > Princes Of The Church ran sacred AND secular affairs? Do your belief- > system leaders, your Game Masters, have the moral authority to trash > democracy and establish a Religious Republic? Do you like theocracy? > Are fundy conspiracies more vibrant than the old Vatican conspiracy? > The issue is not whether Americans are too sinful to be trusted with liberty. Liberty is not a religious concept but a political one. The real issue for the churches (not just the fundamentalist ones) is that no one is listening to them any more. Church for Americans is a social function, not a moral one. We go to church to socialize with our friends; we like our clergy to entertain us; we change churches the way we change cars, depending on whether we like the organist or the pews... The churches had better "listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches" (Rev. something). When clergy start talking about morality in government, my invariable answer is that this means they aren't getting through to people at large and want to use government to enforce their own theological viewpoint. So kids are using dope, sleeping around, and listening to loud music? Instead of looking at themselves and asking why the kids aren't hearing what they're saying, the clergy, in knee-jerk fashion, turn to the politicians and cry, "Bring prayer back to our schools!" The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in our selves... And sin is in the heart of the beholder. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. (And please remember that none of the Pharisees felt able to continue stoning the woman taken in adultery...) Or, to put it another way, RTFM! ;^) Bob ================================= Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
