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So what IS your definition of "socialism"? There does not seem to be
a clear definition in the web site mentioned and there is none that I
can find in the following two messages.
Howard Davis
E Mael wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> on this list and for the most part, you will not find a real definition of
> socialism or liberal because there is a conspiracy by a number of people
> on this list to stack and balance the pandora's box of world problems on
> the terms socialism and liberalism. it is a concerted effort by those in
> the disinformation business to divert the attention away from the REAL
> CRIMINALS and stack them on socialism and liberalism. everyone else is
> pretty much resolved as to their understanding of these terms and it is
> only those with agendas who will even bring these terms up in the first
> place and that will always be to spread disinformation about these terms.
> watch the flack that i get from this post and you will see who support the
> this agenda of disinformation. and if they shut-up it is only to conceal
> the fact that they are right wing, disinformation spreading minions of the
> dittohead persuasion. the funny thing is that they don't even know that
> they are. they would be laughable if they were not so serious and probably
> dangerous.
>
> The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has
> decided not to see ...
> -- Dominique Francon
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
> >i have a question for the list, especially those who have been calling
> >clinton a socialist.
> >
> >how the hell do you define a socialist??!!
> >
> >definitely not the same way i do. i think of myself as a socialist, but
> >i've always considered the american government to be a prevailingly very
> >capitalist one.
> >
> >another thing, real socialists (by the definition of modern socialist
> >organisations), do not consider stalin to have been a socialist. socialism
> >in my mind is a government by the people, for the people and with the
> >people. very idealistic i know, so don't any of you cynics on this list
> >start patronising me please.
> >
> >i just feel that your definition of a socialist needs to be defined,
> >because then maybe i'd be able to figure out what the hell you're talking
> >about when you call clinton a socialist.
> >
> >if you want to read the reality of the socialist movement, you can do so
> >here:
> >
> >http://www.clubi.ie/dojo/cwi/index
> >
> >this is the webpage of an international socialist organization. they have
> >many articles on world affairs and probably a link to the communist
> >manifesto in there somewhere.
> >
> >you might find that your definition of a socialist clashes with their
> >definition of a socialist.
> >
> >-peace
> >-andrew
>
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