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Thank you for the posting, Samantha.

You told us that you were glad that hate crime legislation
exists .... and that the context of a situation must be taken into
consideration in order to more fully understand the nature and
ramification of a crime.

I won't belabor this...but this "isolated" incident that so many members
of our list feel is so untypical and "out of character" in America is
not an "isolated" nor an "untypical" event at all.  When one group
(whatever their color or sex) dominates and controls the
political/economic/social/cultural life of a nation to the detriment of
other groups, it is not surprising that individual members of the dominant
group begin to feel a sense of entitlement...special privilege...a sense of
superiority to others--even to the point of feeling that they have the
right to assault a innocent child.

The little boy is going to grow up with the memory of that incident...and
his family must live with it, too.  And the seeds of distrust and hatred
will grow....   That's one scenario.  Of course, hopefully, he
will learn to view members of the dominant group as complex human beings
who are neither "good" nor "bad".....just individuals like himself.

Hopefully, when he grows up, he will want to try and change this
society...to make it a place where children won't be assaulted or
humiliated because of their membership in a particular group.

But he will probably grow up to listen to the arguments so often
advanced on this list about how America is a color-blind society, how
social problems are non-existent...that in America, how it's not the color
of one's skin that determines your life circumstances, it's your
character, etc.



On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Samatha 'Smith' wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 99-04-06 23:19:19 EDT, you write:
>
> > So hate all you want, more power
> >  to you, but just don't act on it or face all the power of the state to
> > punish
> >  you for your actions.  Should you suffer more because the crime was
> > committed
> >  because of hate or bias?  NO.  The end result is the same, an injury has
> > been
> >  done, the motive is not important the crime is.
>
>     I feel the same as you.  I do know that a hate crimes bill would make a
> crime out of some things that were before just indecent acts.  That's my
> understanding, anyway.
>
>     We were entering an amusement park in Missouri.  A group of white teens
> and an adult were crossing our paths.  One of the teens took his cup of water
> and flung it in the face of a young black boy sitting alone on a bench.  I
> was stunned for a time -- I simply couldn't grasp what I'd just seen.  Then I
> hollered to the teen, "What did you just do?  You come back here.  You come
> back here and apologize!"  He kept walking.  The adult looked over his
> shoulder and said "It's no big deal.  He was just cooling the boy off."  It
> was fucking disgusting
>
>     My companions stayed with the boy while I went to report the incident.
> The police took it quite seriously, and I was surprised.  They explained that
> it fell into the "hate crimes" category.  The white group got away.
>
>     What a bad day it must have been for that little boy.  He endured the
> cold water without even flinching.  He was alone on the bench because his mom
> was punishing him.  His whole family had gone to the car for lunch and left
> him behind, alone, in the sun, in 110 degree heat.
>
>     When the cops located his mom, apparently she wasn't very sympathetic.
> Poor kid.
>
>     Anyway, I was glad for the hate crimes classification that day.  And
> that's about all I know about it.
>
> Samm
>
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