4/11/99
I don't believe this scenario (below) at all. This is all show biz.
If the point of this NATO aggression is to break off another piece of
Yugoslavia and insert NATO occupation forces into the Balkans, then
ground forces are the linchpin of this plan. The differences are over
WHEN ground troops will take part and not whether they will.
They have been waiting for public opinion to catch up with the
propaganda. That has now happened and Clinton is ready to be
" convinced " to use ground troops. The CFR/NWO packed Congress
will make it easy to send Americans to kill and die for the New World
Order. This crazy situation turns the concept of patriotism on its
head. The American government is drumming up patriotic feelings in the
general population to send Americans abroad to fight a non-American
war.
The entire operation is illegal, immoral, and unconstitutional. DON'T
BE SUCKERED IN BY WHAT LOOKS LIKE PATRIOTISM. They are NOT fighting
for America or America's interests. They are NATO. NATO IS NOT
AMERICA!
NON- Americans are making military decisions for American military
personnel and equipment. Have you noticed that you only see Americans
as spokesmen for NATO. This makes it look like " America." I'm sure
local faces are fronting for each and every NATO country involved in
this criminality.
There are violent demonstrations in Italy against Aviano. There are
anti aggression protests against NATO and the United States all over
the world. We have allowed our CFR/NWO government to make America into
the GREAT BULLY of the world.
We need to take back control of our government. They must not be
allowed
to hijack our blood and treasure to further their globalist agendas at
our expense.
Protest the aggressive and illegal war against Yugoslavia. This is not
an
issue of Left or right. It is patriotic and moral to stop the New
World
Order from destroying independent countries who wish to be free of the
New World Order and that includes many Americans.
GET NATO OUT OF YUGOSLAVIA.
GET THE U.S. OUT OF NATO.
Joshua2
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> Clinton Urged to Plan Ground War
> Returning Congress Faces Debate Over Future of Policy
> By Guy Gugliotta and Juliet Eilperin
> Washington Post Staff Writers
> Saturday, April 10, 1999; Page A01
>
> A bipartisan delegation of key senators and House members yesterday urged
> President Clinton to prepare for a possible ground war in Kosovo,
> underscoring the high stakes facing lawmakers returning from a two-week
> recess to debate the future of U.S. policy in the Balkans.
>
> "America, wake up," Rep. Steve Buyer (R-Ind.), a senior member of the House
> Armed Services Committee and an outspoken critic of the Clinton
> administration, told reporters at a news conference. "Europe is at war, and
> we are in it."
>
> Buyer was one of 11 Senate and House members who toured NATO installations
> and spoke to alliance leaders this week. Most, like Buyer, returned
> convinced that the United States and its NATO allies should stand firm in
> opposing the Serb forces of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic and that
> Clinton should begin planning -- and preparing the American people -- for
> the possibility of a ground campaign.
>
> The delegation's militancy contrasted sharply with the more measured
> stances of many of their colleagues who stayed home during the two-week
> recess and the outright opposition of some who consider the air war over
> Yugoslavia a poorly conceived venture doomed to fail.
>
> But with polls reflecting growing support for a possible ground war in the
> Balkans, the politics of Kosovo in Congress have become increasingly
> complex. Clinton, like many Republican conservatives and some Democrats,
> remains opposed to deployment of U.S. ground troops, while hawkish GOP
> internationalists and an increasing number of Democrats insist that the war
> must be escalated even at the risk of U.S. casualties.
>
> Clinton presumably would like congressional support for whatever course he
> chooses, and he must eventually have congressional approval for extra money
> to fund the war. Whether he will get it will become clearer Tuesday, as
> Congress returns to work and finds its agenda consumed by the war in Kosovo.
>
> House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and Senate Majority Leader Trent
> Lott (R-Miss.) have said little about the conflict during the recess, but
> members of both chambers are contemplating a variety of Balkans-related
> measures.
>
> In the Senate, Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.) and Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
> may revive a measure calling for NATO to arm the Kosovo resistance
> movement. John McCain (R-Ariz.) suggested a resolution from Lott and
> Minority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) saying "we support the president
> and urging him to take what action he deems necessary."
>
> But in the House, William F. Goodling (R-Pa.), chairman of the Education
> and the Workforce Committee, and chief deputy whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) are
> seeking support for a bill refusing to fund U.S. ground troops in Kosovo
> without congressional authorization.
>
> Rep. Greg Ganske (R-Iowa), a cosponsor, said his constituents "don't see we
> have an overriding interest" in sending ground troops to Kosovo and
> predicted Hastert would be "mobbed on the floor" by members seeking a vote
> on the issue. "This is sounding to us just like the beginning of Vietnam,"
> he said.
>
> Rep. Tom Campbell (R-Calif.), meanwhile, intends to offer two resolutions
> under the War Powers Act, one formally declaring war and one calling for
> the withdrawal of troops 30 days after the bill's passage. "Congress should
> be asked to vote yes or no at this stage," Campbell said.
>
> As Congress considers these resolutions, both chambers may also have before
> them an emergency funding request from the administration, a measure likely
> to inspire considerable rancor among Republicans anxious to curb government
> spending but reluctant to deprive U.S. forces to do so.
>
> "We have to be honest with the American people," Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.)
> said. "I would say this: You can't put a cost on your national security. If
> we believe this is a priority for your short-term and long-term interests,
> then cost has to be secondary."
>
> Democrats generally have favored the air offensive in Kosovo, while
> Republicans have criticized what they say is the administration's failure
> to anticipate Serb resistance. Still, partisanship has blurred some in
> recent days as the Kosovo intervention has deepened.
>
> McCain noted that "none of us have heard from the leadership" during the
> recess, and in the absence of any signal from Lott, the Senate debate is
> being dominated by hawkish Republicans -- McCain, Hagel and Armed Services
> Committee Chairman John W. Warner (R-Va.) among them.
>
> Still, the Senate clearly has its share of ambivalence. Bill Frist
> (R-Tenn.), who opposes sending ground troops to Kosovo, described a series
> of town meetings in which "always more than one-third say continue doing
> what we are doing, 20 to 25 percent say get out as soon as we can, and the
> other 30 percent basically say [commit] ground troops." But, he added, 90
> percent are unwilling for Americans to shed blood in Kosovo.
>
> In the House, members are much more vulnerable to the blandishments of
> outraged voters from much smaller constituencies, and viewpoints are often
> much easier to identify. In order to "save the credibility of the
> administration, we [will] get ourselves more deeply involved than we
> already are," said Rep. Heather A. Wilson (R-N.M.), a former Air Force
> officer who says 95 percent of her constituent telephone calls oppose
> intervention in Kosovo. "It's not worth it."
>
> Hastert took a hard-line posture during a European trip last week. "The
> Milosevic regime is evil, and free nations should confront evil wherever it
> occurs," he said in a speech before the Lithuanian parliament. "We have a
> duty to say no to ruthless dictators, to draw the lines where evil knows no
> bounds. . . . Let there be no mistake: no one should doubt the resolve of
> the American people as we work to bring justice to the Kosovo region."
>
> But the speaker is not forcing a party-line position, and many of his
> colleagues are deeply conflicted. Freshman Rep. Lee Terry (R-Neb.) said he
> was applauded at home for voting last month against sending peacekeepers to
> Kosovo, but times have changed. "The fact is we're in this mess now," Terry
> said. "We have to look at how do we get out of it."
>
> For Buyer, McCain, Lieberman, Hagel and five of the other lawmakers who
> accompanied Defense Secretary William S. Cohen to Europe this week, the
> only answer is to stand firm. "What we have heard and seen has stiffened
> the will of all of us and given us an understanding of how just a cause we
> are fighting for," Lieberman said. "We're not going to walk away. One way
> or another, we're going to win."
>
> The nine urged the president to begin planning for the use of ground
> forces, as well as convey to the American public the gravity of the Kosovo
> campaign. "It is important for the administration to reinforce the point to
> the American public that NATO's efforts could require many more weeks or
> months to succeed," the lawmakers wrote Clinton. "The American public also
> needs to be better prepared for the likelihood of alliance casualties."
>
> But if militancy has eloquent champions from both parties, it has equally
> eloquent critics. "I've always been concerned that doing 'something' may be
> worse than doing nothing," said House intelligence committee Chairman
> Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.). "Now we're stuck in a situation where we're either
> going to have to send ground troops or send somebody else to do it. We're
> sort of at the bottom of a hole."
>
> Sen. Robert G. Torricelli (D-N.J.), ordinarily a staunch Clinton supporter,
> called the air campaign a massive "error of judgment" that should not be
> compounded. "I will personally oppose any introduction of American armed
> forces into Serb territory for what would be a protracted military campaign."
>
> But other Democrats were convinced that massive human rights abuses in
> Kosovo made it impossible to pull back. Milosevic "needs to be stopped at
> all costs," said House Minority Whip David E. Bonior (D-Mich.). "You can't
> do it halfway."
>
> And Rep. James P. Moran (D-Va.) said that while the majority of his
> constituents opposed sending ground troops, "there comes a point . . .
> where you happen to acquire a conviction on some causes, and it is more
> important to do what you believe is right rather than react to public
> opinion."
>
> Staff researcher Ben White contributed to this report.
>
> � Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company
